You’d know because you’re the one hurling out 12 year old level put downs about tasting ball sacks. Tell me why 1996 Tyson who’d had 8 rounds of activity in 6 years, beaten some very average fighters and a terrified Bruno walks through Toney who was nothing if not extremely skilled and durable and in 2003 was on a very decent run? B..b..b..but it’s Tyson!! Sorry I need more than that fanboy.
If it was Toney against the Tyson of 2003 I'd go with Lights Out but the Tyson of 1996 still had handspeed, reflexes, stamina and of course power, by 03 MT had lost all but the latter. Tyson TKO5
Tyson by 6th round KO. Tyson would start fast in the early rounds and not give Toney any offensive opportunities. By maybe round three or four, Tyson will start slowing down and Toney will start having moments. This last until round bout the 6th when eventually a slower, tired Toney gets caught and Tysons finishing instincts kick in.
Agree with @young griffo on this. I don´t get this rattling about that version of Tyson running over one of the best defensive talents of all time, a solid chin fighter too. The version of Tyson who threw so many sloppy shots right over Holyfields temple, that Giachetti had to tell him to put his punches down....while Holyfield counter-punched that strategy in like 80 % of an overrated bout anyway. Elements of what could been seen in the Mathis fight as well. On the other hand, Toney made it 24 against a young bulldozer of Peter, a draw with Rahman, looking good against Ruiz too. No need to tell about the (past it) Holyfield bout. Tyson might edge a decision, but I see Toney giving him all kinds of trouble in the later rounds.
Good post.seems like a more realistic take.lots of cheerleading for Tyson in this thread.There was quite a difference between 80s and 90s Tyson.
I’ve been getting told for years that Tyson wasn’t “prime” against Douglas at 23. It stands to reason he’s even further past prime at 29 doesn’t it? Then again Tysons fanboys could just be talking **** and making up excuses to explain away Douglas curb stomping him.
Mike wasn’t motivated for Douglas and he gassed early because he didn’t train. The Ruddock versions were better. When Mike came back in 1995, he’d obviously lost the gifts that he had in the 80’s, but he was motivated and looking to get back on top. I don’t think for one second that he’d have ran over James, but I think that James would have fought quite defensively. I personally think that he’d have had a lot of respect for Mike. I can’t envisage a scenario where it would have played out like the Jirov fight. I would have had to have made Mike a big favourite here.
Toney did do shid at Heavy...............full stop. Needed PED's to get by club fighter Johnny Luise Life and death with the ghost of Rahman 24 with the definition of a cream puff............no skill no defense wide swinging cave man Sam Peter who put Toney on his azz with a jab.... The grand finale..............a shot to pieces Oldiefield impersonater...............corner stoppage. While pretty much washed up 96 Tyson waxes every single one of those clowns above inside the distance when they were fighting Toney But thjis is all academic, Toney is not the sharpest guy but he is smart enough not to step into the Ring with 96 Tyson, a man gots to know his limitations.. Proof ? Toney never ever met in his entire heavyweight stint ONE upper level prime fighter with a pulse...........he fought nothing but cannon fodder and still lost.