Most overrated current Boxing trainer?

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  1. louis_bernard

    louis_bernard New Member banned Full Member

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    Dominic Ingle's recent results - Liam Williams - lost, Willy hutchinson - lost,
    Robbie Davies Jr - lost, Kid Galahad - lost ,Lee Reeves - lost, Jason Quigley - lost, Yves Ngabu - lost, Jake Ball - lost. Plus many of their fighters have been popped for peds.

    The Ingle gym have had TERRIBLE results in the last couple of years. It's a fundamentaly flawed, overrated gym. Dominic Ingle is more of a fitness coach and pharmacist than a top boxing coach.

    Quigley, Reeves ( two top amateurs that were undefeated ) , Davies Jr, Ball ( two matchroom fighters) Ngabu (undefeated European champ) all moved there, regressed and immediately lost straight away, then left the Ingle gym , obviously realising that in reality it wasn't the gym that the sky commentators try to hype it as.
     
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    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    #1 Ben Davison
    Freddie Roach
    Teddy Atlas
    Shane McGuigan who looks like he's never taken a punch despite being involved in boxing his whole life
     
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    Adam Booooooth

    He has been living off of David Haye who was already a great fighter when he joined him for years now.
     
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    seansanashee Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A great trainer is only as good as the fighters they get to work with. Manny Steward was the best imo but he worked with 2 atgs.
     
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    Wash your mouth out with soap.
     
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    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Freddie is very hard to understand and can barely hold pads. In his prime, he taught an ATG in Pac to throw the right hook more. Now? He's a minor celebrity and that's about it. Name ONE impressive thing he's done in the past 5 years.
     
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    I won't even respond to the first sentence, but when I trained with him in 2015 I thought he was a fantastic trainer. Unlike anyone else I had trained with NZ or Aus.

    What exactly do you demand from a trainer to make them great?
    This guy has put his fighters first over his own life, and in doing so actually slowed the progress of his parkinsons. Roach is an inspiration, if anything.

    Just off his resume alone, he has trained the following:

    - Frankie Liles
    - Virgil Hill
    - Oscar De La Hoya
    - Mike Tyson
    - Manny Pacquiao
    - Both Klitschko brothers
    - Miguel Cotto
    - Amir Khan
    - Frankie Gomez (before he disappeared)
    - Julio César Chávez Jr.
    - James Toney
    - Jorge Linares
    - Gary Stretch
    - Jose Benavidez
    - Peter Quillin
    - Lucia Rijker
    - Vanes Martirosyan
    - Jean Pascal
    - Ray Beltran
    - Ruslan Provodnikov
    - Viktor Postol

    From memory, Roach has trained over 30 world champions...but he's overrated?
    Not to mention those in UFC/MMA too.

    Speaking of Virgil Hill, Eddie Futch is underrated FWIW.
     
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    I don't know about THE MOST, but for me Abel Sanchez failed in almost all of his big fights. And by failing I mean totally wrong tactics and didn't change much during those fights. The first one that pops up to mind is Gassiev vs Usyk. Gassiev didn't even win a round..
     
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    Virgil Hunter.
     
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    They don't call him Disable for nothing. :sisi1
     
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    Andre Rozier fighters seem to come up just short in big moments. It’s like he can’t motivate them to hit that extra gear.
     
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    There are so many ...
    Most get a hyped name after landing a super talent, in many cases pretrained.
    Sugar Hill is the latest. People actually think he turned Fury into a different fighter in a few months, which is impossible.