Route to Fury vs Wilder III

Here are the current Ring ratings. https://www.ringtv.com/ratings/?weightclass=272

Wilder has had four fights with the current top four heavyweights. (He is 2-1-1 and scored six knockdowns in those four fights). He looks like he's about to have Fifth fight with one of the current top four heavyweights ... and for the lineal title no less ... next.

I'll nudge you when the bell is about to ring. You seem to have slept through the last three years. (LOL)

 

calm down kiddo...

It did not do 850k buys no matter what Bob puts out there. It was close but not that high. Even at that level do the numbers....

850k x $79.99 = $68m - 35% network deduction in US this is conservative leaves $44m. Add $16.9m gate = $61m.

both fighters got $28m each leaves $4.9m which you then have event costs and undercard costs etc. That is before marketing costs including superbowl adverts etc etc. It barely broke even and this is the reason why Arum at the time said he was hoping for over a $1m buys as that would make it viable.

The third fight does no where near the numbers and both guys will want similar money. This means..... the fight will not happen.

The Saudi's paid $50m gate for AJ vs Ruiz and they had to sell zero tickets. I know which event i would have preferred to have been a part of.
So relax kid.

 

Nice simple math, kiddo, if the fight was only sold in the U.S. (LOL)

I was referring to U.S. sales only. It broke the gate receipt record in Las Vegas and sold 850,000 U.S. ppvs.

The fight was on PPV in the UK and was sold to countries all over the globe - Spain, Germany, Italy, Austria, Russia, etc. -- hell, I watched it on Turkish television. (LOL)

Your math leaves out income from the "rest of the globe." (LOL)

Don't worry about it. It made so much money they planned on doing it again right away ... until Covid hit and Eddie Hearn said he "had a guy" who would pay way beyond market price for Fury-Joshua.

And, since Eddie can't find his guy, they are running right back to Fury-Wilder ... because it made so much money last time.

 

good one... You keep letting GBP's mag tell you who is good. Some of us will just use our eyes.

 

Same old same old from the chin then give it up already man

 

Yep, same old facts. (LOL) Facts always spoil the fun when people only bring opinions with them.

Damn those facts.

 

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Thats why I said it barely broke even. It would have done sub 500k buys in the Uk which works out less than $6m net. The rest of the markets bought the fight but not ppv. Would have been fees ranging from $50-200k depending on the market.

do you know how much a Super Bowl add costs. Why didn’t top rank want to go straight back into the Wilder rematch?

I know because he got starched and there’s no money in it. Keep coming kid

 

Massive yawn

 

The Brits are dead afraid that Wilder lands his money punch and Fury goes to sleep...............is Fury landing that one in a million punch behind the ear again to turn the fight.............unlikely..............that fight will be way more competitive thats why you Limeys dont want it.

Talking about a beat down...............Wilders corner stopped it , he was willing to go out on his shield vs the Bodybuilder spit his mouth piece out and quit against a non ranked obese late sub Midget...........

One thing is a dead given............Fury takes Wilder a LOT more serious than you arm chair "Experts" around here.

 

Hold on...you are always saying Brits are tight fisted and wont pay much for PPV fights yet you watched your hero on Turkish TV?

 

Oh boy. Here we go.

It always cracks me up when a guy on the internet with a calculator shows up insisting he knows how much every fight made to the dollar. It's always a red flag. Any time someone says "he didn't sell as many as he said he did" ... I know the guy is a troll.

People who are actually successful in boxing for 50 years (and are former tax accountants) don't say they MADE TENS OF MILLION MORE than they did, because the IRS can read. (LOL)

Novices may do that ... and then the Internal Revenue Service comes calling wondering why that's not how much you claimed you made on your last tax forms ... and then you go to jail. That's usually why the promoters don't publish final totals or remain very vague on the final tallies. You get a lot of "it looks like we'll end up here."

But internet trolls who think U.S. promoters publicly OVERINFLATE final PPV numbers have never been audited. (LOL)

You don't have the contracts. You don't know how much each fighter made after certain PPV threshholds were met in each country - because fighters tend to have different deals with different countries. You don't even know what countries bought the fight. And if someone mentions the number of PPV REPORTED sales in the US, you say that was a lie. And it didn't sell that much, according to "your" calculations. (LOL)

(They are usually the same guys who think 500,000 buys at £29 is $6 million net.)

Also, Top Rank did go right back to Wilder ... until Eddie Hearn showed up insisting they could all make EVEN MORE because he had a guy willing to overpay for Joshua-Fury.

That's why, if Eddie can't deliver, we're going right back to Fury-Wilder III.

Just put your calculator down. You aren't getting a cut.

 

I wasn't home, obviously. (LOL) But nice catch.

 

Calm down kid and stay off the internet if you get butt hurt by someone on the internet. FYI what i say the fight does and what i declare on a tax return are two very different things.

For instance i can say I made $20m last year to anyone that will listen. When i file my taxes i state I made $250,000 and show the paperwork that. The people i told i made more are non the wiser.

Also just to keep you in the loop the fight was £19.95 in the UK and did 450k buys. minus the provider cut thats £6m.

Keep up kid.

 

Wrong. In the UK it was £24.95. And it was sold on Sky and BT Sport through CABLE subscribers. BT Sport never released its figures.

And you left out streaming rights for all the streaming companies around the world that didn't show it thru cable but streamed it thru entities like FITE TV in the U.S. and DAZN across Europe and the percentages derived from that.

Your math is all wrong. First, you ONLY included US PPVs and you thought the fight barely broke even then.

At my urging, you included UK PPVs (and still got the price wrong) and only included buys from one provider. You left out buys in other countries. You left out streaming all over the world, which generates as many (if not more views) as CABLE.

All you've done is show how many revenue streams that fight had ... AND WILL again.

The days of counting U.S. cable buys (and dividing by three) and saying I KNOW HOW MUCH THE FIGHT MADE are long over. Again, put your calculator away.

I never saw someone so insistent a fight that generated tens of millions didn't make money. (LOL) Weird.

Math class is over. You failed.

 

bro you have zero clue.

I live in the UK it was not on Sky and BT.

Only BT. it was priced at £19.95 as i bought. it didnt make money because it costs to put the event on and market it. If it made so much money they would be scrambling to do a third one. Why are they not??? get over it son.

The only joint PPV they will have ever done is AJ vs Fury

Kid calm yourself down and get back to twitter keyboard warrioring. Wilder is done at the top table get over it.