Oleksandr Usyk vs Andy Ruiz

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dance84, May 2, 2021.



Who wins

  1. Usyk Decision

    83.6%
  2. Usyk Knockout

    10.4%
  3. Ruiz Decision

    4.5%
  4. Ruiz Knockout

    1.5%
  5. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Imagine if Usyk went life and death, got dropped by once and very nearly dropped twice, and was repeatedly hurt by a shot to smithereens 40 y/o shell of Arreola who should've been 2-3 in his last 5 fights. He would be being crucified on a flaming crucifix :lol:

    Robbery against K Level Kauffman who dropped him

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    Life and death against scrub Curtis Parker who took the fight on a weeks notice

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    Robbery draw against Kassi who nearly stopped him

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    Hell, these clowns crucified Usyk for having a competitive fight against a 36 y/o 255lb Chisora who had a nine month camp to prepare for him, in what was essentially Usyk's HW pro debut because Witherspoon only came to shell up and survive, and Usyk had been out a year. In case you haven't noticed Chisora gives virtually everyone he faces serious problems with that size, strength, physicality, power , chin, and relentless aggression pressure style of his and even if you're a huge punching SHW behemoth it's virtually impossible to keep him off of you or deter him from coming forward.
     
  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Usyk would box circles around Fat Andy and if the 40 y/o shot shell of Arreola can drop him, almost drop him x 2, and hurt him repeatedly Usyk can too.

    Both have better chins than Fat Andy

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  3. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Usyk's power @ heavy is being underrated a little bit, for a few rounds you might be able to plod through his shots but I think thats because he doesn't like to load up early.

    In the later rounds people won't be as willing just to keep plodding forward imo. Chisora certainly slowed down.
     
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  4. Geo1122

    Geo1122 Active Member Full Member

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    Agreed. However, likewise you can’t take one nights great performance and say that’s his level. Other than the Joshua win, Ruiz has proven to be a pretty good fighter, but nothing more as of yet.

    I do agree that there are question marks over Usyk at heavyweight, or should I say question: will he be able to handle a big top heavy? We know that he lacks the power, and that’s a big no no in todays heavyweight scene.
     
  5. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    Easy fight for Usyk
     
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  6. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    This is a mismatch. Parker is orthodox, slower, less agile, less skilled, less rangy and no more hard-hitting than Usyk and was still able to control Ruiz with a jab fairly well. Usyk won a 9-3 type fight against Chisora while Parker went life and death with him. Ruiz would barely land a glove on Usyk.
     
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  7. snake33

    snake33 Active Member Full Member

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    Usyk would probably outpoint Ruiz, like Parker did.
    And then all his fan boys will claim that he beats AJ or Fury
    which ain't gonna happen.
     
  8. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very astute observation.

    Does Usyk have one-punch power at heavyweight? Of course not, and no one is suggesting otherwise.

    The nimble Ukrainian can sting you, however, and as a fight progresses and opponents tire, those punches become more impactful/meaningful.

    Usyk is simply more talented, irrespective of Ruiz's weight.
     
  9. drenlou

    drenlou Tres Delinquentes Full Member

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    No surprise from ESB on the polls.
     
  10. Guru88

    Guru88 Active Member Full Member

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    This is a much much closer fight than that poll suggests
     
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  11. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Usyk is an absolute joy to watch. He's an incredibly talented and interesting boxer.

    Ruiz gets a pass where Usyk would be slaughtered.
     
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  12. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Deus Vult Full Member

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    It would be a competitive fight. What we know about Usyk is his stamina isn’t nearly as good at HW as it was at CW. He’s a guy who has to fight in spurts to avoid gassing. Ruiz for his part was throwing punches in round 12 with the same energy as he did in round 1. Usyk isn’t a puncher either, as shot as Arreola is he’s always had a big right hand and power is the last thing to go.
     
  13. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    Andy's body was destroyed with alcohol (and maybe drugs? I don't want to make any accusations) in the same way Fury did. Andy was a self admitted party guy who ate and drank way too much following his big win over AJ. Much in the same way Fury had to work his body back to boxing, so does Andy.

    Usyk smokes any version of Ruiz however.
     
  14. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You must have a disease. I was 6` 1.75" at 21, and I'm 6` 1.75" at 70.