Muhammad Ali v Usyk..

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  1. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    Lol, you on the wind up mate
     
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    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tyson fought actual heavies, Prime Foreman was knocking out cruisers and didn't take punches from proper heavies until he became the immovable object in the 90s. But that was a very different George.
     
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    Over 70 Fights TKOd once Big George.....His Chin was made of Granite.!!!
     
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    If cooper managed to knock him down why couldn’t foreman do it??????? How on gods green earth is usyks opposition better than Ali’s? Lemme guess ur picking Andy Ruiz or butterbean to best ali? What a joke
     
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    Blasphemy!
     
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    HellSpawn86 "My heart goes out to you!" Full Member

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    I'm not convinced Usyk could take on Ali until he defeats some top heavy's.
     
  7. SheenLantern

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    Ali is on a different plane of existence to Usyk
     
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    Ali by KO
     
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    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Based on Usyks performance against Bellew Ali wins a clear decision. Not only is Ali faster and has better head movement than Bellew, he also has quicker feet, pivots significantly better like he did against Liston, has a much better gas tank, and has better ring iq.

    I don't understand the "modern fighters are better BS" if modern technology, training and conditioning doesn't make Usyk physically and technically superior to Ali then how does it make him better ? Usyk isn't faster, he doesn't have better head movement, their foot speed is about the same, he doesn't have a better chin, etc. Usyk can slip into an angle around his opponents significantly better than Ali but thats about it. Usyk arguably counters better but Ali was pretty good at that.

    I understand that boxing evolves and thats a good argument if you're comparing modern day boxers to boxers from the 1910s and 20s but not if you're comparing modern boxers to fighters from the 1960s and 70s. Not much has changed from a technical point of view since the 60s and 70s

    Usyk is very skilled though. Imo he would beat all of Ali's opponents except Joe Frazier, Jimmy Young, and maybe Ken Norton
     
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    Lmao...Ali beats the absolute **** out of Usyk.
     
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    Bellew is not a God Damn thing like Joe Frazier, in any context.
     
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    Who did Usyk beat at Heavyweight? A faded Chazz Witherspoon and Derek Chisora a guy who loses all the time. Usyk was losing on the cards to a past his peak Tony Bellew, The same Bellew who got destroyed by 175 Adonis Stevenson. Usyk barely beat 199 pound [url]Mairis Briedis[/url] now the clueless boxing fans are acting like Usyk is some heavyweight legend.
     
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    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Nostalgia queens vs size queens. Always a recipe for a healthy, spirited debate.
     
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    What about slay queens or yas kweens?

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    Usyk isn't a cluless slugger or a handicapped atrophied mafia bought coke addict that Clay could headlock or lay on all night so id say Usyk :)
     
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