Danny Garcia: Keith Thurman Is More Skilled, Faster, And Stronger Than Errol Spence...

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  1. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    yeah, see, thats why so many misinterpret what they saw in spence vs mikey. why they come up with crazy theories, you included. their logic is based on a wrong assumption.
     
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  2. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    I'm okay with being wrong on this. I just haven't seen it. Please supply some videos, time-stamped, of Spence setting up traps or being incredibly adaptive/cerebral in his boxing (don't conflate that with capitalizing on size advantage).
     
  3. sparta

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    Thought he said thurman hits harder but spence is stronger?
     
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  4. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Yes, Spence is stronger physically in it that it's probably much harder to push him back when he's in your face.

    Like Shawn Porter. He doesn't hit hard, but he's physically very strong and fighting him in close is a very physical and draining affair.
     
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  5. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Make a poll with that question
     
  6. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    just rewatch the mikey fight. take a look at precisely what spence does every time mikey steps forward. take a look at their positioning one second after mikey looks to step forward to get in distance where he can place his shots. where is spence and what is he doing? how fast do his feet look when getting to the proper position? these are the things that tell you what is happening. that is why i knew mikey would handle vargas, the much bigger man, even after spence. vargas cant do what spence can do. compare what vargas did when mikey moved into his preferred range. mikey had no answer for the denial of the range he needed, cause spence had never fought like that, he had never been hard to find before, till mikey. cause he knew, mikey at midrange can still handle guys like vargas, and thats dangerous.
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Is Danny a six-toed freak?

    Yes

    Does he have ridiculous Lego hair?

    No question about it

    Does he have hideous taste in ring attire, clothing, decor, and pretty much everything?

    Guilty as charged

    But one thing Danny does not do is speaketh with forked tongue and utter untruths

    E-Spence is a good fighter but he's spent his entire career dining down at the the Leprechaun Luncheonette and on the only two occasions he managed to summon the courage to venture over to the Same Size Steak House he struggled badly.


    Algieri says Ruslan hit much harder than Spence

    Algieri also said 149lb Manny has more single shot power than Spence

    Lo Greco said Khan hits harder than
    Spence

    Mikey said 140 pounder Lipinets hits harder than Spence

    Spence couldn't even wobble blown up 135 pounder Mikey for goodness sake, let alone drop or stop him

    And he couldn't wobble Danny despite cracking him with over 1000 power shots. One Time hurt Danny

    And last but by no means least

    He couldn't even match Leprechaun Leo Santa Cruz's score on the punching machine in two attempts

    Leo only had one go :risas3:
     
  8. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Spence beats the brakes of this version of Manny.
     
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  9. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    We don't know what Manny is gonna show up. Who knows, maybe the 2 year lay off will reinvigorate him. Gave his mind and body some rest.

    And he's a very fit guy and plays a lot of basketball and doesn't blow up in weight.
     
  10. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Danny can talk till his tongue swell up and bust. I saw a closer fight between him and Thurman than I did with him and Spence. Spence dominated, out boxed and outpunched him. Spence has a much better chin than Thurman and frankly boxes better than he does. I think that Thurman has the edge in power but that's about it. I don't think that Pac can beat Spence, but he has a better chance with Spence than he does with Crawford. His best fight would be against Mikey. That's a fifty fifty fight.
     
  11. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    I think pac is still to fast for Spence
     
  12. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    naah. thats why thurman started timing him as the rounds went on.what surprises fighters at first is the distance pac can cover with speed. you gauge where hes at, then back up what you think will be enough when he charges, and yet he still catches you. spence has the speed to get himself completely out of harms way, while leaving himself in a position to fire off shots at you hanging in the air, and the length to deliver those shots. once you win the distance battle with pac, cause hes got stubby arms, you goad him into exploding into one of your shots. both spence and mikey are experts at doing this, moreso mikey, as this is his bread and butter. he likes to use your forward momentum to walk you into shots. crawford prefers to beat you at the midrange, catching you in between flurries as you try and adjust to the different looks he gives you.
     
  13. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    I know what Spence shows up, and that’s all I need to know.
     
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  14. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    I also think Thurman a better boxer
     
  15. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i definitely disagree with that one. nobody has really tested spence, i imagine crawford could, and thats the only way people will start to see how well spence can actually box. you have to see what hes doing, and then imagine what fighters would be able to do the same thing as successfully. he can beat world class fighters into hamburger on the inside, he can force the distance he wants on the outside, and he can land first at midrange. he is always prepared, in superb condition, both mentally and physically. i will repeat what ive been saying for 5 years. nobody beats spence at welter. nobody. that may change within the next 3 years.
     
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