1. Tyson Fury 2. Anthony Joshua 3. Deontay Wilder 4. Dillian Whyte 5. Andy Ruiz 6. Joseph Parker 7. Alexander Povetkin 8. Luis Ortiz 9. Oleksander Usyk 10. Joe Joyce
That was not a draw Fury comfortably outboxed him besides the 2 knockdowns. He outboxed him just as easy as he did Chisora. Fury was robbed
Is Whyte really #4? He has beaten Parker/Povetkin/Chisora. But he struggled against all of them. Usyk on the other hand never looked in trouble against Chisora and has dominated another top contender in Hunter.
Usyk will only go up once he beats more ranked fighters. However ranks 4 - 10 I'm almost happy to list in any order.
Fair enough. I rate Joyce top 15 not top 10 - as he was getting beaten by Dubois until the eye injury. Same for Povetkin, he is in a serious decline - and may not ever fight again. I'd put Hunter in the top 10.
Fury was not considered some ATG monster at the time of the first Wilder fight. He was the guy who punched himself in the face, got dropped by Steve Cunningham (remember how often people brought that up in regards to him dealing with Wilders power?) then had one good night vs an old complacent Wlad in one of the most boring low activity HW fights ever, never had the rematch, ballooned up to like 400lbs during almost 3 years of inactivity, then came back and looked like **** against Seferi and Pianeta, going the distance with the latter. Then lo and behold hes all of a sudden signed to fight Wilder a few months and 2 terrible performances vs cans into his comeback. He was considered badly ring rusted, out of shape, washed up, delusional and pillow fisted, and was widely expected to get KTFO. Then Wilder was gonna walk around calling himself lineal champ, saying he beat the best British HW etc. Wilders team thought they were being smart using Fury as a negotiation tactic vs AJ, and they ****ed up. As for the rematch, not really a cherry pick but Wilder entered that fight expecting Fury to try and dance around and spoil for 12 rounds again, giving him ample time to just headhunt and find the shot he needs. Again..."he needs to be perfect for 12 rounds", Wilder did NOT expect Fury to turn into a ****ing wrecking ball, nobody did. So once again Wilders team ****ed up badly.
LOL he won about 3 of a combined 19 rounds. All in the first fight when Fury had been back for like 6 months, then got absolutely demolished in the rematch when Fury was at 100%. What an accomplishment. I suppose John McDermott and Steve Cunningham are more accomplished than AJ too?
Wilder has never been ahead of AJ imo Edit : ok the 6 months in between ruiz fights maybe but you know what i mean.
Not true. Hell, Wilder won seven rounds in fight one on the Mexican judge's card and two of the completed six rounds on Glen Feldman's card in the rematch. That's nine of 19 rounds on just those two cards. Even the British judge had the first fight a draw. (LOL) Wilder was a point away on the British judge's card from outpointing Fury via split decision in fight one. Fights can look different in person than they do on TV. Clearly. Especially the sound of punches. Ever been to a real professional fight? Ever been a few feet away when a heavyweight gets blasted to the deck and falls unconscious? It's quite different than watching replays on your computer.
You seem to be absolutely wrong about everything (LOL). The year Wilder signed to fight Fury in 2018, Fury began the year as the undefeated RING LINEAL HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMP. https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_2017 In fact, in a colossal bonehead move by the Ring staff - one of their dumbest moves in the magazine's long history -- they decided to remove Fury as the Ring champ due to inactivity a few months before FURY RETURNED and fought three times that year. (LOL) They stripped Fury for inactivity the SAME year he was the MOST ACTIVE heavyweight in the top 10. (LOL) So, even they get it wrong sometimes. They certainly did that year. The Ring staff at that time will forever have to explain how Fury began 2018 as Ring champ, fought three times in 2018 (more than any other top heavyweight at that time), never lost a fight that year, and began the following year rated #2. (LOL) It's among the dumbest things that magazine has ever done in its history. With that, I think I'm done talking to you. You seem to be trolling. The Fury punch to his own face was like 2010. It's 2021. You guys need to CATCH UP. All your arguments center on five years to more than a decade ago. It's about where they should be rated RIGHT NOW. Nothing that happened a decade ago matters in the least to someone's current rating. Fact is, in the current ratings, nobody who got dropped four times and quit against the current sixth-rated heavyweight Ruiz deserves to be the #1 contender right now. Joshua hasn't done anything to dig out of that hole and move ahead of everyone else in the current standings. It's the worst loss of anyone in the current top 10. Even Parker didn't lose to Ruiz, let alone get dropped four times and quit against him.
You're conveniently ignoring the part where Joshua then won almost every round of the rematch a few months later. He also beat Pulev after that, holds 3 of the 4 major belts and has wins over four of the current Ring HW top 10. Wilder doesnt have any belts, hasnt competed since a bad loss over a year ago, and has beaten one guy who Ring has in the top 10. The only times Wilder had a clear case for being ranked ahead of AJ was pre-AJ/Wlad and the gap between AJ/Ruiz 1 and Wilder/Fury 2. You're claiming Fury was considered the best HW at a time where his only fights in 3 years were against Pianeta and Seferi, and that Wilder won almost half of the rounds against him. But sure, im the one trolling here.
AJ wins over Wlad, Povetkin, Whyte Parker, Ruiz and Pulev are all more impressive than Wilders most impressive win over Ortiz ( he has no other noteworthy win and there is about 10 guys in the divison with better resumes than Wilder). Same can be said about Fury and his wins over Wilder (which is his third best win after Wlad and Chisora). As for this weekend I had Parker winning rightfully against a chisora who is experiencing an Indian summer of a career (best career wins Takam, Spzilka and Price all came later on when he became a born again christian and as he said himself became more disciplined with his training). Parker reumes of wins with wins over Ruiz, Chisora, Takam, Hughie and Fa is far superior to Wilders wins over Ortiz, Spzilka, Washington, Duhaupas and Stiverne. Ruiz had a disspointing peformance but still won every round outside rounds 2 and 3. It's seem only AJ or Aj opponents get discredit for underperformances. If we look into Wilders and Furys record: Wilder doesnt get any discredit for being rocked and losing to rounds Ortiz before the KO. Washnington and Spzilka outboxing Wilder before the KO. Being rocked by Molina and taken into deep rounds by Molina. Taken into deep rounds by Duhaupas who busted Wilders face up and had a questionable stoppage. Dropped by Nichols and Scroniers. Fury dropped by pjakic and Cunningham. Should of lost to McDemort. Rocked by Flirtha. Lost 4 rounds to Wallin and had the Wilder rematch not been in the line Fury of lost the fight due to stoppage by the cut.
You've quoted the wrong post here buddy. I was asked about if it's possible to beat Fury on points, I pointed out that someone already should have done. Don't know where you get Kevin Johnson from (LOL)
How anyone can argue Wilder is number 2 after the absolute beating he took off Fury, and the fact that his best win was against Ortiz, is amusing. AJ has 3 belts, Joshua has had to defend those against Povetkin, Ruiz, Parker, Wladmir. Wilder won his belt of Stiverne, and has to defend them against the likes of Washington and Brazeale.
