Remember how easily Floyd Mayweather beat Canelo?

And PBF was 2x the fighter in 2007 than he was when he fought Canelo. That fight was supposed to be a passing of the torch fight usually the young lion beats the old one. See Loma-Lopez for reference. Canelo fought PBF at the right time, not the other way around PBF's clinic against Canelo is arguably the best win of the last 10 years.

 

Alvarez is now the biggest draw in boxing. Even the Pac fans can’t deny that.

 

I Know he probably belonged at Middleweight all that time, but had he moved up to Middleweight before he did, he would never have been able to fight Mayweather which was his goal.

My question to you is, do you think him rehydrating so much was really a big advantage for him? I know Lampley used to always talk about how fighters who rehydrated a lot had a functional advantage, but I always felt that that never factored in what rehydrating weight overnight does to punch speed. Canelo's hand speed is a lot faster now than it was back then don't you think? It's because now he's not rehydrating as much. Like poeple act like when he blew up from 154 into the high 160s on fight night gave him some massive advantage. I don't think so, I think that only slowed down his punching speed. Maybe it gave him a little more power, but it's just water weight. Punch speed is more important than punching power don't you think?

 

Not even close. His best performance was against Chico or G Hernandez. His performance against Chico was the best exhibition of the sweet science of the last era.

 

You've gotta be joking. LMAO that fight was not close. Giving Canelo 4 rounds is generous as hell

 

Floyd absolutely 100% destroyed Canelo, almost knocked him out too!

 

Yes and No. Yes Floyd was at his absolute physical peak in terms of speed and technique in 2007. But when he came back between 2009-2013 he added experience and when you add in that experience, and being wiser, he was arguably just as good overall or even better than he was in 2007.

In 2014-2015 he fell out of his prime (though vs Berto he looked much better than he did vs Pacquiao) but through the Canelo fight I would argue he was still almost as good as he was in 2007 and in some ways maybe even better (more experienced, more crafty, more slippery, more accurate, etc) than he was back then.

I know you might disagree but I still would argue that the version of him who fought Canelo in 2013 was arguably one of if not the best versions of Floyd ever. Yes he was older in his mid-30s but he got himself into incredible shape. When I look at that version who fought Canelo vs the fighter who fought De La Hoya, I personally think the 2013 version was much more seasoned and dialed in than the version years earlier who fought De La Hoya.

 

No fighter is prime at 36 dummy, he was faded his legs were no where near as good as they were in his prime he was far more stationary then a blind man could see it. PBF's last prime fight was against JMM in 2009 every fight since that one was a gradual but noticeable decline to astute boxing fans like myself.

 

I'll get my post in before I read some others. You do know haters will always claim Canelo was green as a cucumber when Floyd beat him. I don't agree with this at all. Until someone can explain how an 8 year pro, with 43 fights is considered green, I will call BS on this claim.

 

Pimp, there's a difference between physically and mentally. Floyd physically started to deteriorate since 2007 but he more than made up for it in other ways. With state of the art treatments for his brittle hands, and training like an absolute beast in the gym like when he fought Canelo.

When you look at 2007 Mayweather, he was better vs Hatton than he did vs De La Hoya because vs DLH that was his first time ever fighting at 154. He was more used to 147 at that time. I know you're not gonna agree with me on this, but I think you aren't giving Floyd enough credit for how good he was in 2013 vs Canelo. I think it's hard to say the version who fought DLH, even though he was years younger, or the version who fought Cotto, was better than that.

I think you're doing this because you want to give the impresson that a less than his best, faded version of Floyd beat Canelo. I don't think you're keeping it real about this. Yes he was older, yes he was 36, but that was a ripped, supremely confident, top shape version of Mayweather. And really Canelo was nowhere near as good as he is now. Stop playing, you know this is true.

 

Fair post but we will have to agree to disagree. Great performance but he was no where near his prime. If he was he would have boxed canelo with movement more but he didn't. Not because he didn't want to but because he couldn't a high ring IQ fighter like PBF knew movement works against Canelo and was the key in that fight. He was forced to be more stationary due to age much more than he wanted to be. The same with Maidana in the following fight, his legs were basically gone.

 

Oh stopppppp ittttttt!!!!

 

In terms of speed, quite possibly. Mayweather was a very different fighter in his younger days, more aggressive. But with age also comes experience. Mayweather was arguably better as a more seasoned well rounded fighter, with better defense and ring generalship into his mid-30s than he was in his younger days.