Name a boxer you're convinced is NOT "juicing".....

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  1. IsaL

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    Golovkin was never on that program. Canelo was though.
     
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    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    James Toney is a good example of that.
     
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  3. IsaL

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    Gilberto Ramirez and still not 100% sure.
     
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    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Shannon Briggs went on a podcast and exposed Wilder he was telling them that the reason Wilder has so many surgeries is so he can have TUE's to juice up.
     
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    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Paul Malignaggi never super fast or strong just a decent boxer
     
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    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Probably most don't in the beginning.

    After a big loss or big injury, past 30, career may be over if you don't come back stronger, most people who come back stronger doped in my mind. People in the position that Wilder, Loma, and LSC are in, it will be interesting to see how they look!
     
  7. It's Ovah

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    Timothy Bradley???
     
  8. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Why would any professional top-level fighter want to be clean when it would drastically diminish their performance levels and earning capacity?
     
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    ClenbuteNelo 'The Beef Boy'
    he is super clean, I mean Clen
     
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    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I really don't know but I assumed that Juicing is one of those "Modern Training Techniques" that people speak of. I would imagine all top contenders, at the very least, are doing it. It's like Nuclear Weapons, in that we can't put the Genie back in the bottle now.
     
  11. DanielDimov

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    There are no top athletes in any physical sport that are not juicing. Sorry to break it up for you.
     
  12. MorvidusStyle

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    This is the new defence for the Canelos of the world, 'everyone does it'. Clearly not, or clearly not to the same degree or they'd all show similar remarkable changes.

    It's pretty simple. Nobody knows for sure who is doing what or what percentage are cheating. But when certain fighters are just going up through weight divisions, bashing up bigger men, showing clear physical changes and suspicious powers, these fighters are most likely cheating, at least a hell of a lot more than their peers. At HW if they have ridiculous bulk/low body fat or stamina out of nowhere, especially at huge size, they're likely cheating.

    If it looks too good to be true, it often is. Especially if the changes happen before your eyes. A fighter suddenly starts one-punching opponents to death. A gassing fighter suddenly becomes an endurance runner. Somebody looks like Mr Universe in an aerobic sport. Somebody becomes Mr Universe overnight. Somebody starts bullying bigger men when they couldn't do this to far smaller ones. Somebody is old but has the speed/endurance of the young.

    Canelo / Joshua / Pac are hands down the most suspect active fighters based on these parameters. Wilder's power is also suspiciously out of the ordinary compared to other HWs.
     
  13. caligula4

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    Pauli was fast enough. Even peds couldn't give him power, however. With the ill behaved
     
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    He was average at best
     
  15. caligula4

    caligula4 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Depends on your estimation of average. Top ten or school hall boxer. He was never going to be a world beater with his pitter patter, but he had skills