Is Golovkin an All Time Great ?

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Is Golokin an ATG ?

Poll closed Mar 11, 2022.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. BCS8

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    :lol: Shadow, go to bed now. You're starting to outright make ish up.

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  2. BCS8

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    I'm guessing you washed his cars, mowed the lawn etc for the opportunity
     
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  3. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I told you before pimp. Prostitution might be the oldest trade, but it's not good for you my man.
     
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  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Wishful thinkers like you kept bring up GGG as if he was somebody back then. You want to talk about someone fighting losers??? LMFAO! that's 90% of GGG's resume is full of C level no hopers. PBF is 10000000000 light years greater than GGG. GGG is a bordeline HOF boxer PBF is the best fighter of the era HOF and a top 20 ATG big difference there.

    PBF always proves dummies like you wrong GGG is tailormade for PBF and would get schooled. GGG is no where near close to being the best fighter PBF fought. Not even top 5, while PBF would be by far the best fighter GGG fought. Canelo jacobs and Chenko showed you GGG's level, good fighter not great. PBF doesn't lose to good fighters he schools even great fighters.:deal: PBF is old and has fought a real fight in almost 6 years he's retired he can fight who he pleases for exhibitions. Pocket watching on another man is a ***** like trait, let him make his bread.

    Ward wanted a fair share of the purse a purse that would have been a career high pay day for GGG and a shot a legacy fight but GGG like the diva he is pussied out and ducked. I still remember the excuses by his fans like you.:risas3:
    Lastly GGG was in no position to dictate terms like PBF. He was no bigger star than Ward was he had a PPV fight that failed miserably. He didn't fancy Ward because he knew he would get that work and you knew it as well.
     
  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I'm guessing I stacked paper being a party promoter and other jobs for years, I was smart knew a good business to get involved with caked up and balled out. I will be a millionaire in a few years, stay mad I'm getting rich.:wave:
     
  6. BCS8

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    :asskisser:asskisser:asskisser:asskisser

    Buddy I can get a pair of Floyd's used underpants for you. Only 200 bucks. I know you want them. They're sealed in plastic so as to preserve the sweaty aroma of his balls :deal:

    (1) That's bull****
    2) If it were true then it makes the entire episode even more shameful. Floyd couldn't stop talking about Golovkin. Everytime GGG did something Floyd was following him like a puppy trying to bite his shoelaces. You could see Floyd was soooooooo salty over the attention that GGG got. All we heard was "easy work" and "easy money" and yet Floyd dropped fresh hot fudge in his jocks whenever a Golovkin fight was suggested. Now, why is that? :lol: tell us about Paul Loogie or whoever it is Floyd managed to scraoe out of the garbage can to fight? :lol:

    :lol: You are delusional

    Dafuq you talking about? Golovkin was and always has been a bigger draw than Ward. The first time they tried to make the ward fight it was Ward himself that wimped out. The last time they tried to make the fight it was still ward that wimped out. :couch:
     
  7. BCS8

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    :cbiggrin::cbiggrin::cbiggrin:
     
  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ward was #1 P4P when he beat Kovalev, then Canelo GGG fought to a draw, then before the rematch the ring awarded GGG the P4P #1 because Ward retired, So GGG was P4P #1 for a hot minute only long enough for Canelo to cement himself as P4P #1 by beating him, and Canelo has been P4P #1 ever since.
     
  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Typical couldn't refute a single point about how GGG couldn't get in PBF's top 5 fighters he fought so you resort to talking about something
    Typical couldn't refute a single point about how GGG couldn't get in PBF's top 5 fighters he fought so you resort to trolling and trying to deflect. You'd let GGG have sex with your wife the way you try and defend a guy whose best win is Jacobs like he's SRR or something.

    It's not BS. PBF is a stylistic nightmare for GGG and the best fighter he would have even fought.

    He made that comment about GGG because he was asked about him and the HBO hype machine was in overdrive. GGG fans were mad because he told it like it was a straight up and down guy with no special effects. He knows those guys who are basic and easy work for him. With that said why would he fight GGG? Who was he back then? PBF had bigger fish to fry than GGG. Like Pac for example.

    I already told you that PBF is retired the fight is an exhibition it's not my fault you want to play dumb and act like you don't know this. GGG would do the same thing hell Paul might even be a step up from his last fight LMFAO!!! GGG is used to fighting pro fights with bums like Paul. In fact he made a career out of it. GGG is embarrassing chasing Canelo around like a jilted lover begging for one more payday. I hope Canelo doesn't give it to him and tells him to **** off and go rematch Chenko or fight Big Charlo.

    At the time of the talked about Ward-GGG fight that would have been the biggest payday he had even gotten. He should have jumped at the opportunity to prove himself and solidify his legacy but he didn't and now here we are tearing down his weak ass resume at the end of his career and people like you trying to say he's an ATG, pathetic. He has no one to blame but himself for being a diva who priced himself out of fights.

    I was told GGG fought for pride and honor false If he had pride he wouldn't take step aside money and he would fought Ward

    I was told GGG was the best MW in boxing history False The best MW in boxing history doesn't lose to a guy PBF damn near shut out

    I was told he was the hardest punching MW of all time False. He didn't stop chinny Jacobs, but Pirog did. He was supposed to stop Canelo What happened?

    You see my friend, GGG simply didn't live up to the hype that overzealous fans like you bestowed upon him. He didn't deliver when faced with his first big test in Canelo. He was a good fighter not great which is why he's a borderline HOF boxer and not a ATG.:deal:
     
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  10. m.s.

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    The Ring had GGG #1 after the first Canelo fight because it was and still is common knowledge GGG won the first fight. I've viewed the 2nd fight recently and Canelo definitely wasn't the better fighter of the two. Canelo is a great well rounded fighter, but he wasn't the better man in their to bouts, flashier yes, better no.
     
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  11. Surrix

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    While I value Pirog potential higher than GGG if he was younger and did not had injury.
    Interestingly western posters are willing to use excuses for their fighters while are in denial about EE boxers age and all other things.
    Pirog was underdog vs Jacobs who then was 23 y.o and with more impressively looking pro boxing record than Pirog. Also he was from U.S.
    A lot of ppl are claiming all these excuse for Jacobs and the same ppl does not value any excuse if this is EE boxer.
    Pirog had stopped him only just because he was better boxer.
    All this indirect hate and talking that this was lucky punch and Pirog is unproven are just hate.

    Posters does not love to admit: they more willingly to underestimate boxers if they are not from Western countries.
    Hate, disrespect and all this there. A lot of this stuff and ppl love to hide this with every thing they are able to use.
     
  12. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not sure who to agree with here, Pimp or BCS8. I think both of these guys are half right and half wrong. Pimp makes some solid points about Ward and about how GGG overhyped but then goes off the rails acting like Canelo is some chump who Floyd mopped the floor with. GGG isn't quite as great as his fans hyped him to be, but he's a tough customer. Floyd would have all kinds of problems with a full strength GGG as he would with a full strength Canelo or a full stretch Pacquiao or a prime DLH.

    Pimp, I got respect for you as a poster, but you're going all out in your idol worship of Floyd. Floyd as great as he is, is very beatable. Hell Marcus Maidana a guy that no one gave any chance at beating him almost did it. Floyd's success towards the end of his career had a lot to do with matchmaking, fighting people at the right time and in some cases weakening opponents or giving himself advantages. And in some cases flat out ducking fighters for years like a Prime Pacquiao.

    Why am I like the only one who seems to give everybody their props, whether it's GGG, Canelo, Floyd. You don't see me engaging in idol worship. People might think I do that to Canelo, but you can't deny how right I have been about Canelo. Years ago people laughed at me when I ranked him #1 P4P, but look at him now, I don't see anyone laughing anymore. The fact is, I've been proven right in regards to Canelo, because I have an eye for talent. I saw how great Canelo was long before most people saw how great he was.

    If Floyd moved up to 160 to fight GGG, without draining GGG down to 154, he would be in the fight of his life. If I'm honest Floyd would get a beating and I would pick GGG to win. Floyd ain't never been in with someone as tough as GGG, that includes Canelo. The main reason why Floyd beat Canelo so "with ease" as you say was because Canelo was not allowed to be at his best because Floyd was too scared of him to fight him without advantages. And he still gave Floyd fits.

    I don't play favorites around here. I'm gonna call out whoever talks BS and engages in idol worship of a fighter. I ain't gonna let anyone off the hook when it comes to trashing the P4P #1 fighter in the sport, whether they're a GGG fan who's butthurt about his only loss or whether it's a Floyd fan trying to piggyback off of Canelo's career and trying to take credit for making Canelo the fighter he is today. Ya'll know what I'm about here. I call out BS and no one's immune from being called out. That said, I got nothing but respect for all ya'll on here, even when you do your idol worship so don't get all mad at me for settin ya'll straight. That's what I do around here.
     
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  13. BCS8

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    Wow GGG sounds ****. So why didn't Floyd fight him?
    Buddy you'd let Floyd ball and gag you and ride you pubes deep like a rodeo horse around the Walmart parking area if he wanted to.:gaysex:
    Which begs the question why Floyd fought losers like Berto while telling people he'd beat GGG up :lol:
    Huh, impressive trash talk. Awful follow through though. I wonder why Floyd ducked a guy with no special effects?
    If GGG was nobody then it's odd that Mayweather wouldn't shut up about him.
    Nope. Floyd had already fought Pac. See:

    https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/06/22/15/golovkin-has-no-special-effects-says-floyd

    Floyd was gearing up to fight useless Berto and debut boxer Conor :lol:

    Yeah Floyd is really rounding his career off in a style befitting him.
    I knew that you'd get around to bigging this Paul guy up. You're literally hanging off of Floyd's nuts :encama:

    Really? Are you sure? Post some facts.

    You realise that GGG actually paid people like Jacobs MORE than they were legally assigned just so that they would take their mandatory challenge, right? :lol:
    Ward refused to fight him. What is GGG supposed to do, kidnap him and take him to Big Bear and fight him in the basement? :lol:

    Sure he did. Canelo's judges gave the decision to Canelo but GGG won the fight. As a Floydette you know this damn well. I mean, unless you think Canelo actually drew with Floyd? :lol::clapclap:
     
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  14. iii

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    Excellent post BC...
     
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  15. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd wouldn't even fight Amir Khan lmao.
    Cause Floyd just a little guy didn't you know. :lol:
    Floyd talked a good game, remember when that reported said to Floyd "would you school him" Floyd was like ehhh maybe I dunno next question.
    :sisi1 Pimp & Floyd be Sittin in a Tree - K-I-S-S-I-N-G. First come love, then come marriage, then come Boo Boo in the baby carriage. Sucking his thumb, wettin his pants, doin the hula hula dance.:tejeqteje:

    "GTF outta here mang!"
    Who is right about this - Pimp or BCS8.:nusenuse:How can we Settle this??:nusee:
    BCS8 you were doing so good until the end. Oh well, but you and Pimp have something in common now, since Pimp said there was some corrupt judges when Floyd in his fight with Canelo lol.

    Maybe you and Pimp can have a big old cry baby party :llorona: about how the judges treated Lil G and Floydybaby when they fought Canelo. :loel::juggle:

    You and Pimp need to realize something - Canelo just that damn good. :naughty2: Floyd and Lil G had all kinds of problems wit Canelo. Those crazy judges giving Canelo all those rounds, yeah the truth hurts but it's OK I'll help you cope.

    Canelo P4P #1, he left Lil G and Floyd in the dust. They in Canelo's shadow now and are looking up at the best fighter of their generation - the P4P #1, de Guadalajara Jalisco Mexico, The Reigning, Defending, Unified, Super Middleweight Champion of the World - Saul "Caneloooooooo" Alvareeeeeeeeez!!