Dariusz Michalczewski vs Canelo Alvarez in Light Heavyweight.

Ffs .. he couldn't even beat an old Golovkin.. the PEDs weren't as sophisticated back then either so if we were to put him in the 90s he'd struggle badly at 175 .. consider too that Dariusz retired at or around an age that most of Canelos opponents are/were already past LOL.. Dariusz would batter the ginger ****

 

People underestimate DM too much. He was a beast in his prime. Who has Canelo beat at 175? An over the hill, alcohol ravaged Kovalev?

DM would win a clear decision, with a chance to win by TKO in the later rounds.

 

Kovalev in that fight was akin to Martinez in the Cotto fight. Pretty much a spent force. Too many out of ring issues & waining punch resistance.. was lucky to scrape pass overrated hype job Yarde. When you reach 36/7 especially as LHW you're on borrowed time.. Not everyone is Bernard Hopkins! Prime DM was basically a LHW Kostya Tszyu.. he'd batter the pumpkin faced little **** .. & so would prime Kovalev in fact

 

He’s only had one fight at the weight Mark.

He’s got a long way to go before anyone starts claiming that there’s only a handful of LHW’s that could have beaten him.

He might be a better P4P fighter than what Dariusz was, but if you look at how they’d have matched up stylistically, that would have been an incredibly difficult fight for Canelo.

 

I’m with you on your opinion of Dariusz, Calzaghe and Ottke etc.

We know how they handled their careers. But stylistically, this would have been a tough match up for Canelo.

 

some people say the same thing about hopkins avoiding calzaghe, but do you know what the one common denominator here?
people saying the fighter who wouldn't fight on the biggest stage being "avoided" by the P4P kings who fought on the biggest stage.

some people say the same thing about collins re-roy jones too.

people would be saying the same thing about golovkin if he stayed in germany in sturm's stable, but look how things turned around once he hit the US.

seriously, some of you people just don't understand the business of boxing.

 

I just feel Canelo looked awesome v Saunders at 168 and is getting better and better, Canelo would have been too skilled for Dariusz.

 

i'm not prepared to entertain this mythical matchup though, because as with all fighters who avoided the US, ALL fights against the best fighters in the world are mythical matchups.

sturm, DM, ottke, steiglitz, abraham (at MW), calzaghe, benn, eubank.
at least calzaghe did fight two legends, albeit waiting until they were at their lowest ebb to do so, and benn and eubank fought each other, but naming the best prime fighters this lot fought collectively is embarrassing.

 

Dariusz was very tough.

Just a few points to consider though:

Virgil has always claimed that he had a foot injury. (I don’t know if that was legit)

Roy fought McCallum for the WBC belt, which Dariusz had no claim to at the time.

Dariusz was stripped of his IBF and WBA belts which he’d won from Hill.

Roy didn’t avoid Dariusz.

Dariusz and his management would never meet with Roy’s advisors and HBO in order to try and make the fight.

 

Canelo is looking great at the moment. I think we’ll see him back up at LHW within the next few years. Canelo is technically better than Dariusz. But Dariusz was very tough. He was bigger and stronger, and he had more power. It would probably have been a tough out fight more than it would have been a boxing match.

In terms of technical ability, many fans on here would rate Canelo above Artur Beterbiev. But not many people think that Canelo would beat him in an actual fight. Because sometimes, skills alone aren’t enough.

 

I hear you. But they all did enough to be reasonably assessed.

IMHO, Dariusz never seemed fazed by being stripped. I think that he was more than happy to milk the WBO belt for all it’s worth. But he showed enough against Hill, Griffin and Roch etc, to show us that he was a great LHW.

Canelo obviously has a far superior resume. But he’s only had one fight at LHW. He’s done nothing yet to be favoured over Dariusz.

 

I think Canelo would beat Beterbiev.

 

Not many people do.

I’d love to see it.

 

You probably are on drugs because you use these words to indirectly insult ppl here.

So, this automatically means that boxer is bad?
There a lot of boxers who had fought almost all their entire career in 1 country and then 0 problems for you.
For me, yeah, does looks very funny.
If Ottke is A side tickets seller in Germany, then this is bad, if Canelo is A side tickets seller in U.S then this is cool, dude had fought everyone etc.

Be calm, I rate Canelo approx the same as Ottke, both of them were almost equal: A side tickets sellers in home country.

You definitely did not had watched any one his fight if you can put him on one basket as ottke and sturm. For sure you most likely just appreciate boxers from U.S.

Yeah, this is main reason why I think that prime GGG versions most likely had real nightmare if prime GGG had fought vs prime D.M.
Prime D.M most likely had gave also for prime Kovalev ( even if fight with 6 months notice ) very hard night in the office.

 

could go either way,

all you fellas claiming it has to only go one way are going overboard,

lol

DM is bigger with a great chin, great jab and strong in clinches,

Canelo has beaten one LHW to date, he Canelo is great and lb for lb far better than DM and could connect and win because of his talent, no doubt,

would love to see this fight,

good call,

lets not turn this thread into a Mexican vs Euro wank parade if possible