Dariusz Michalczewski vs Canelo Alvarez in Light Heavyweight.

We need to see more of Canelo at light heavy to have a proper opnion.

As it stands in his lone fight there he was getting outpointed by a past it Kovalev until he got him out late.

Its hard to pick against Michalczewski.

 

i'm not saying this to defend a comparison of canelo at LHW, but it doesn't it seem ridiculous to bring a guy who fought his entire career using 'ze german formula' of never fighting the best fighter in your division into the equation?

 

Sorry,english isnt my first language.
Can you rub that back in more simple terms?

 

Feigenbutz wouldn't have won a round against Virgil Hill or Montel Griffin, you can't even begin to compare the two. Michalczewski would beat Plant Silly before stopping him.

 

sure thing.
it doesn't seem right to me that people can compare DM to someone like canelo, because DM never faced the best in his weight division.
canelo was fighting floyd when he was 23-24.

 

Indeed but the point was who would ein between them.

 

i don't think DM deserves to be spoken in the same breath as canelo

 

I get you.
I disagree but it is what it is.
As a european who was a kid in the time if the great german boxing times of the 90s Dariusz was a top player of that time.
Canelo will definetely be higher on an all tike list but H2H its hard for the ginger kid.

 

i agree with a lot of what you have to say on this forum.
you're objective, and you leave the door open for opposing views, but at the end of the day DM chose to live his life like sturm and ottke.
he was talented, but he made sure he never had to fight the best fighter in his division.

 

You are acting like he ducked Roy.
None of them wanted eachother,they were making good money fighting the guys they were fighting without travelling.
It is ehat it is,a black mark on both theyre resumes.
Even still he fought much if Roy’s same opponents:Griffin,Hill,Harmon and some other good guys.
Somewhat similar to Bernard’s middle weight days:the best of the rest bunch.

 

roy was the P4P #1 fighter in the world, and he was there because he fought on the biggest stage of all.

DM, just like sturm, ottke and steiglitz, never fought the best fighter in their division, and they didn't fight them because they milked a paper title in germany.
they did that because there was good money to be made by fighting everyone except the best fighters in the world.

 

Its funny because if you by history Dariusz was the lineal chsmp and Roy was the paper one and I could go into detail there.
You are right about Stieglitz(altough he had a good career) and Sturm(altough you could argue that happened after the de la Hoya debacle)but Ottke fought thebest guys available except Calzaghe.
There is no question there.

 

I think you assume that Canelo by fighting over the hill Kovalev who barely had dealt with Yarde had fought the best boxer in LHW division?
Really?

 

Dariusz wrote letters, took out ads and called Roy out continuously. But he was all talk. Because the fact is, no face to face negotiations ever took place. Every time HBO and Roy’s advisors reached out, they were rebuffed. Like I always say, if you want to see if a guy is serious about making big fights, go and look at who they fought. HBO tried to get that fight. And when they couldn’t, Roy then tried desperately to fight Hopkins in a rematch. And after Hopkins had deliberately priced himself out by demanding $10m or no fight, despite the fact that his biggest ever purse had been under $3m, Roy then fought John Ruiz and Antonio Tarver. Whereas Dariusz just continued to defend his lightly regarded WBO belt against B and C class fighters.

 

Obviously you don’t possess any knowledge of his career.

I wasn’t a fan of his, and he definitely milked is WBO belt. But he was a world class fighter who was extremely tough.

We’re not talking about some lowly European level fighter here. Also, he was Polish, not German.

He beat Virgil Hill, Graciano Rochigianni, and he knocked out Montel Griffin.

Canelo absolutely wouldn’t have knocked him out in any round he’d have chosen.

Canelo has only had one fight at LHW, against a shot version of Kovalev.

Dariusz would have been an extremely tough match up for Canelo. He was bigger, stronger, more powerful and much more proven. He also had a great jab and could fight as well as box.

He’d have been a significant favourite going into the fight.