Unjustified criticism of Fighters.

Marciano was clumsy
Marciano has poor balance
Marciano was a poor boxer
Marciano has no defense
Marciano was a face first fighter

Jack Johnson feasted on small opponents

Louis had slow feet
Louis had no head movement

Carnera was a circus act
Carnera was a fraud

 

Sugar Ray Robinson was too wild
Sugar Ray Robinson did not look like an elite H2H fighter

 

Men like Archie Moore and Ezzard Charles can’t be that good they lost to C fighters

Archie Moore was shot for the Marciano fight

Every excuse ever for a Holyfield loss

Patterson had a glass chin

Marciano is unathletic and unskilled

Marciano has no defense (my personal laughable favorite)

Joe Louis has a glass jaw

Walcott was a journeyman

 

Tyson had bad stamina

Ali couldn't punch

Lewis had no chin

Mayweather was a runner

 

Agree with most, but I'd say Patterson did have a glass jaw, but people exaggerate it. He did manage to get up from most of those knockdowns.

 

even if louis lacked head movement , head movement itself is not the end of all be all of keeping your head safe.

 

Who has ever said these?

 

Somehow it's Leonard's fault Duran stuffed himself before the rematch. Also, Leonard should have fought toe to toe like last time instead of making things difficult for his opponent.

Foreman should have fought guys like Bruno and Ruddock instead of facing the champions like Holyfield and Moorer.

 

It does get extremely tiresome when others keep bringing up Muhammad Ali vs Sonny Banks, 1962, or Ali vs Henry Cooper 1963, they never talk about Ali vs Cooper 1966. Legitimate knockdowns in 1962 and 1963. but how many of us have failed a learning test when we were in school as youngsters, or our first driving exam, we were better the second time around. Sonny Liston vs Marty Marshall, 1954, again Liston was in the learning stages, he beat Marshall second time around. We could criticize each other for the way we post or live but none of us are without fault. This talented poster who created this thread should be applauded, great thread.

 

I think people say some outrageous **** about Floyd Mayweather on here because they simply don't like him as a person. The guy was an unbelievable talent that was successful on every level. Just look at how he beat a young Canelo Alvarez who has been knocking out Lightheavyweights and Super Middleweights lately. Folks will say that he fought Canelo when he was inexperienced or they will say he fought Paq, Hatton, Oscar etc when they were past their prime. Some folks simply don't want to give him credit for anything.

 

Bowe'a defense wasn't anywhere near as bad as people make out.