We lost on an unification fight, but got two better fights instead....what's not to like?

Your inability to understand simple concepts is frustrating.

 

As is yours.

 

Ah, the classic "no, you are".

 

amateur Wilder did not had " lack of basic skills ".
If you so much wish to talk about power, let's go till 70 ies.
A lot of boxers and pundits in US agreed that most heavier puncher was Shavers.
Now there is question: why people, including pundits more are still talking about Foreman, Frazier, Norton, Holmes and Ali from 70 ies not about Shavers?
The best Shavers achievement was that Ali looked impaired after this fight, nothing more.
While yeah, if he wasn't under King, he might had get another treatment in fights vs Frazier and Norton and then we had saw different comments and maybe also a bit different cards in these fights.

The most funny difference for Shavers and Wilder is that he had 2 hands capable to debilitate.

amateur Wilder was not unskilled boxer. He was skilled.

 

Not at all I’m banging my head against a brick wall.

I say I lump the current crop of mid to lower ranked heavyweights like Whyte, Parker, Chisora etc in line with the likes of Stivernne, Arreola, Thompson etc you disagree, I honestly don’t care but saying something or someone is “worse” with no back up or at least explanation isn’t really giving me a concept to understand.

 

You think Wilder was "skilled"?

Yet, almost everyone in the sport, from current fighters, to retired fighters, trainers, commentators, pundits, journalists, even the majority on this forum, all think he's technically awful, with poor fundamentals.

They are all wrong, though, yes?

 

The "back up" is the opposition they've faced, the manner in which they've disposed of said opposition, or how the acquitted themselves in a loss, and what the best version of them can do.

I've never said Whyte is elite...not even close.

All I've ever said is he's light years ahead of those you named.

Again, who has Stiverne been in with?

How did he fare?

Who are the 3 biggest names he's faced and what was the result?

 

Well, talks after something had happened are nice thing of course.

Reality is this: if country with more than 300 000 000 inhabitants sends to Olympic trials and games someone, mathematically there should be impressive concurrence for places to get there if you are from U.S.

 

Again you are missing the point, Whyte has a better resume, I’ve not said he hasn’t however he has struggled in most fights he’s had, the fighters he’s faced haven’t been puns wanting and why a past prime Povetkin could still level him.

Whyte v Stivernne/Arreola etc would be good fights, that’s not saying how good or “great” Arreola or Stivernne etc are just that Whyte is on that level imo.

For arguments sake I think Joyce, Hrgovic, Yoka all beat Whyte, Parker etc.

You can do what you are doing to anybody’s resume.

Nice alt by the way...

 

Just fair and unbiased commentary by Boxing24 standards

 

"Nice alt..."

What are you on about?

 

What?

People have been saying it about Wilder for years...

 

I think anyone who'd deny there's a chance of that isn't engaging with reality.

Equally, I don't see a reasonable chance that Wilder wins deservedly... Fury is levels above him, he's shown that very clearly on two occasions and with two different styles at this point.

However, upsets do happen and Wilders power means he's always got a chance even when he's thoroughly outmatched - we saw this at the end of the first fight with Fury, we arguably saw it with Ortiz as well to a lesser extent.

This is partly why I'm not bothered about seeing it - Wilder doesn't deserve to beat Fury, he's levels below him in pretty much every aspect other than power, but he's always got a chance of pulling off an undeserved win.

Yes, this is boxing and the better boxer doesn't always win, but the nature of the fight being the third installment of a series that's already a very clear 2-0 is what makes it particularly galling to consider that possibility.

 

You are a troll with multiple accounts, your posting style disclose this with a glance.
This at first.
Next: U.S boxing does have very high concurrence in amateur ranks, they had sent to compete in Games a lot of very good boxers, later a lot of them were notable pro boxers.
Starting with 50 ies and Patterson.

If this talking about how unskilled Wilder is, there first place to blame is US am boxing not Wilder.

 

Agreed. I really enjoyed Fury vs Wilder 2. Their styles gel well I think, even if it's a bit of a mismatch, so it'll probably be a good spectacle. We don't really need to see it again though.