I really don't understand some of you who are so confident in Usyk...

It's true there no great way to guage exactly how good Usyk is right now but for me at least it's simply based on some logic from watching both parties fight. FWIW I've never thought Usyk can beat Fury, I see that as a bridge too far, so this is really with respect to AJ and Wilder.

Usyk is a VERY calculating fighter, and generally starts slow, figures his opponent out then keeps increasing the pace till they wilt.
His fundamentals are far far better than Joshua, let alone Wilder, and he is very good at reading the opposition and avoiding their shots (or at least riding/absorbing them).

I think Chisora is actually one of the harder tests for Usyk at heavyweight as that style makes it much harder for him to get time to read the opponent and do his thing. But you can see after the 2nd round Usyk had pretty much adapted to Delboy's bull in a china shop approach and started timing him with counters.

Joshua generally likes to fight from distance - and with his reach that should be effective against Usyk. But Joshua has generally always been pretty straight up and down, he get's frustrated when he is made to move, and hates anyone getting up close and tagging him - you could see that even against an ancient Pulev. Uysk's angles and quicker movement will give AJ fits, and I see him getting steadily more frustrated, and expend more nervous energy - making him even more prone to gassing. Once AJ gasses it's likely to be around the point Usyk normally steps things up, and that is a real stylistic nightmare for AJ.

Wilder, his fundamentals are poor, and generally has bailed himself out on numerous occasions with that right hand. Is there a chance Usyk won't see it coming and get tagged? Of course, nothing is certain in boxing. But the smart money would bet Usyk is way too smart and canny to get tagged by one of Wilder's windmills. I see Usyk doing much the same as what Fury did in the 2nd, expect more of a clean clinic rather than a physical beatdown.

I think a lot of folks agree with this view that Usyk don't hit very hard - and sure he's no Wlad or Wilder in that regard. But he's still 6'3 and 220ish lb, and unlike most of the other heavyweights he PICKs his shots really well, and a lot of them are ones the opponent doesn't see coming.

Finally, there's the chin - he generally doesn't get tagged that much, but he's been caught flush by Breidis, Gassiev and now Chisora, and at no time has he ever really looked in trouble to me. Do Josh and Wilder have one-punch KO power? Of course, and more-so Wilder, but they got to land that hail mary! And that's a tall order against Usyk.

That's just the way I see it from having watched the fighters. And Usyk could well have lost a major step due to inacitivy / age and weight gain. But even then I still think he's got enough to beat AJ and Wilder. Fury is a different proposition entirely.

 

I think its fairly obvious that Usyk does very well at HW - everyone with half a brain can see how talented he is.

The two undisputed CW champions who also made the step up to HW, were Holyfield and Haye and they both won a version of the world title.

Usyk will match that at least. Usyk is on the level of Holyfield and Haye, not many people are disputing that

 

AJ looks fantastic against a certain type of opponent.

Others he struggles with, I believe he struggles with Usyk, it's not a good style for AJ and throw in Usyks a southpaw and AJ isn't too clever with those either.

To beat AJ you need quick hands, quick or good movement and decent power, I think Usyk has all three.

 

Holyfield and Haye were a lot younger than Usyk when they moved up. Usyk is already 34 and probably past his prime already. Holyfield and Haye also carried their cruiserweight power up to heavyweight somewhat which certainly helped against the bigger heavier guys. Usyk though was never a big hitter even at Cruiserweight.

 

just put all my money behind Usyk’s next opponent. Hahah

 

the level of feel in Usyk is very high. cant mess with it.

 

Usyk did very well against Chisora and the style Chisora fought, showed things many doubted, people didn't think he could cope with the pressure of a genuine big man, Chisora brought every ounce of pressure he had and Usyk didn't only survive the onslaught, he won well.

People seem to pick and choose when Chisora is a good fighter.


Whyte, WBC mandatory challenger for over 1000 days as we were constantly reminded, well he went 23 rounds with Chisora, in my opinion Chisora won the first fight and was well in the second and gave Whyte all he could handle until Whyte pulled out a peach perfect left hand.

Usyk dealt with Chisora much better than Whyte did.

Chisora dropped Parker within 15 seconds, gave him a hell of a nights work, again Chisora unlucky to lose.

Usyk dealt with Chisora far better than former WBO world champion Parker did.


I am not seeing what other people are, people really want to pick holes in Usyk and I supposed that's fine, he isn't a perfect fighter, nobody is but the Chisora fight is one of those that irritates me, how then Chisora should have been an easy night or something for Usyk but any other time he is "a hard nights work for anybody".

Usyk went in with a much bigger man in Chisora, who is famed for his mauling swarming style and coped with it, didn't get hurt, didn't go down and won comfortably in my opinion, He also hurt Chisora a couple of times, not majorly but he was definitely buzzed.

What else was Usyk suppose to do? Glide around the ring like a prime Ali?

 

I really don't understand some of the guys, who think he has no chance.

He was sparring with Klitschko brothers in their prime and make them look foolish. That alone should tell you something

 

Chisora has had somewhat of a renaissance in recent years, really belying his age. He's a great gatekeeper and barometer, but many folks tend to forget that only Vitali, Fury and prime Haye have really handled Chisora 'easily'.

Chisora dealt with Takam in better fashion than AJ did, and I agree he should have had a win againts Whyte. Also in the 2nd, that left hand from Whyte came after Delboy got a harsh point deduction, which you can tell deflated him - not sure he would have been caught with that left-hand if he hadn't had the point deduction.

 

As stated before.

Vegan diet is bad for you. Mmmmmm kkkkk.
Makes me question if you DKSAB.

1) Usyk, never been hurt, never been dropped with an outstanding CW resume. Better than any CW since Holyfield. Man has Chin, movement, heart and sting. Been fighting away from home since he joined the pro ranks.
2) AJ vs Parker showed that if you move and jab and stay away from AJ power, he can be VERY limited.
3) AJ shakey chin, glass temple is real issued with AJ, Usyk isnt a power puncher but can punch just as hard as Ortiz who bombed out AJ.
4) AJ is prone to gassing and switching off in a 12rd fight. Something Usyk will expoit.
5) People keep going about Usyk, HW resume, stories of boxing Wlads ears off in his relative prime are real,. as well as putting on a whooping on Joe Joyce who are all certified as SHW, tells its own story.
6) AJ cant deploy the power on something he cant hit, Chisora swarmed at Usyk up close and couldn't connect a single decent head shot. He made it rough for 4 rds then got soundly whooped.

 

Great points.

Exactly, Chisora blitzed Takam, AJ didn't do that. Now we all know triangle theories don't work, but if you look at them as just form lines, Chisora's form was very good before Usyk.


I think people pick and choose when Chisora is a good fighter, I've been extremely harsh on Chisora in the past but when people are having a pop at Usyk over the Chisora performance then I have to remind them of what others have said to me about Chisora.. also what promoters and other fighters have said about Chisora and that he is "he is a tough night for anybody"

Chisora has been the distance with..

Tyson Fury
Helenius
Vitali Klitschko
Pulev
Whyte
Kabayel
Parker


But Usyk should have slaughtered him? Usyk beat him, that's all he needed to do.