the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Cool, I also had the Canelo-Jacobs fight a draw. I've swung back and forth on the GGG-Jacobs one.

 

Glad you enjoyed it scar.

 

I had Canelo beating Jacobs by 1 point

Rounds Won/Even
Alvarez - 2,4,5,8,11,12
Jacobs - 1,3,6,9,10
Even - 7

(A)115-114(J)
Winner: Alvarez​

 

GGG v Daniel Jacobs


Round 1: 10-10 Even
Round 2: 10-9 Jacobs
Round 3: 10-9 Golovkin
Round 4: 10-8 Golovkin (scores a knockdown)
Round 5: 10-9 Golovkin
Round 6: 10-9 Jacobs
Round 7: 10-9 Jacobs
Round 8: 10-9 Golovkin
Round 9: 10-9 Golovkin
Round 10: 10-9 Jacobs
Round 11: 10-10 Even
Round 12: 10-9 Jacobs

Total: 115-114 Golovkin

Very close fight.

 

Don Fullmer v Rocky Rivero (10 rounds - NY scoring)

It should be noted that Rocky Rivero was the donor when they cloned him to create Jorge Castro. My God, the same plodding, strong-as-an-ox, rock-jawed fighter who swung from the fences. Here we go.

Round 1: Fullmer
Round 2: Fullmer
Round 3: Fullmer
Round 4: Fullmer
Round 5: Rivero
Round 6: Rivero
Round 7: Fullmer
Round 8: Fullmer
Round 9: Rivero (Fullmer penalized the round for holding)
Round 10: Even

Total: 6-3-1 Fullmer (actual scores: 6-4, 6-4 and a 5-5. NY had a supplemental system used if a score came out Even, where the judge could employ additional points for a knockdown or a good round as a tie-breaker. So that last score became 6-5 for Rivero for a split win for Fullmer)

Fullmer, basically, fought a smart fight, staying away from Rocky and beating him to the punch as Rivero bored in. Unspectacular, but effective. Which also may sum up Don's career. Regarding the penalization, NY had that odd rule when there was a deduction. They simply take the round away from the offending fighter and give it to his opponent. Very poorly done, which really enhances the 10 point must system. Anyways, in this instance, Rivero had won the round anyway, so nothing is deducted. Again, it was a poor rule. Regarding that 9th round. It was funny, when the round was over I muttered, "Castro had a good round." I just couldn't get the similarity to Jorge Castro out of my head. I'm sure the other judges gave the 10th to Rivero as Fullmer was clearly hurting. They may have not taken to Fullmer's tactics that round, but I thought he did enough to hold it Even in a very sloppy round. Anyways, barring that last round, I enjoyed the fight.

 

James Toney vs Merqui Sosa​

Rounds Won/Even
Toney - 1,3,4,6,7,10,11,12
Sosa - 2,8
Even - 5,9

Notes
* Toney scores a knockdown in Round 3 (10-8 Toney).
* Point deduction from Sosa in Round 10 for a low blow (10-8 Toney).

My Scorecard
(T)118 - 110(S)
Winner: Toney

Review
Great fight. Lots of action. A good test for Toney early in his career. A minor middleweight title (IBC) was on the line. Toney was very green, but still very skilled & talented this early in his career. Despite the wide scorecard I gave & the fact Toney won fairly comfortably, it was still a tough fight & Sosa's awkward style gave Toney fits throughout the fight. He would also later go on to say that Sosa was the hardest puncher he fought.​

 

Merqui Sosa was a really fun fighter to watch. Everything I've seen of his is worth looking at IMO.

 

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Catching up with last night's entertainment. Definitely one of the more intriguing fights of recent times, and one I was highly anticipating. Bit annoyed that I fell asleep

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10 : 9
10 : 9
9 : 10
10 : 9 (39/37)
9 : 10
10 : 8
10 : 8
10 : 9 (78/72)
10 : 9
9 : 10
10 : 9
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114-112 is a joke. How the **** can you find six rounds for Ramirez? I felt generous giving him four. The commentators were very bias. Ward and Bradley are ****ing awful. Ward is boring and Bradley both annoys me to no end and is one of the most cringe worthy characters I've ever come across. Nice enough guy, but please stop letting him commentate. Good performance from both, but Taylor was just far better.

 

Emile Griffith v Don Fullmer I (NY rounds scoring)

Round 1: Griffith
Round 2: Griffith
Round 3: Fullmer
Round 4: Griffith
Round 5: Even
Round 6: Fullmer
Round 7: Fullmer
Round 8: Griffith
Round 9: Griffith
Round 10: Fullmer

Total: 5-4-1 Griffith (actual scores: 7-2-1, 6-2-2 and 9-1 all for Griffith)

First of all, let me just say that rounds 9 and 10 were shortened rounds on the tape. I thin 9 was about 2:45 long and the 10th was the last 1:45 of the round, so these rounds were a reach. Secondly, let me just say, don't waste your time with this fight. Although Don wasn't Gene in winning ugly, it was really the only way he could fight Griffith. To crowd him and maul him inside. On the otherhand, Griffith rarely used his beautiful boxing skills and chose to go along with Don on the inside. There were moments where you saw Griffith's combos and sharpmess, but it was rare. IMO, give this one a wide berth.

 

Eduardo Lausse v Marcel Pigou (NY rounds basis)

Watched this fight aired from St. Nick's Arena today. Man, the crowd got it's money's worth. However, just to warn you, the film is poor (grainy).

Round 1: Lausse
Round 2: Even
Round 3: Lausse
Round 4: Lausse
Round 5: Lausse (scores a knockdown)
Round 6: Lausse
Round 7: Pigou stops Lausse

Total through 6 completed rounds: 5-0-1 for Lausse (Official cards unknown)

Lausse was as strong as an ox and was pounding Pigou good. But there were some areas of concern along the way. I noted in the 2nd round that Pigou just couldn't miss Lausse with an overhand right. It didn't appear to matter as the fight progressed because he seemed like he could handle Pigou's best shot. And then the 5th came along and appeared to be close to over. After dropping Pigou with a left hook, Pigou did fight back, but was then battered. Today, the fight would have been stopped. If it was a 10 point system, I could see a 10-7 in this round. However, Lausse did look a bit punched out in the 6th, but was still winning. In the 7th it came out of the blue in a quick exchange, Lausse was down. I had to replay it to see where it happened and sure enough, it was one of Pigou's overhand rights which seemed to catch Lausse on the temple. Mercante intervened shortly after, ending a damn good fight.

 

Florentino Fernandez v Rocky Rivero I (NY rounds basis)

Round 1: FF
Round 2: Even
Round 3: Rivero
Round 4: FF
Round 5: Even
Round 6: FF
Round 7: Rivero
Round 8: Rivero (scores a knockdown)
Round 9: Rivero
Round 10: Rivero

Total: 5-3-2 Rivero (actual scores: 5-4-1, 6-3-1 and a 5-5, but with NYs supplemental scoring, the 5-5 became a 6-5 unanimously for Rivero)

This was just a good, hard-banging 10 rounder out of Madison Square Garden. And I must admit (I refuse to look at scores or what someone wrote about a fight before I score. I don't wish the slightest doubt in my head when I'm scoring), I thought it was Fernandez who won their first bout, so I'm shaking my head saying to myself, "Man, someone of us is really off here." But, as it turns out we were all on the same page. Rivero just fought a smart fight crowding the hell out of Floro, preventing him from winding up that big left hook of his. And he stayed busy as hell inside. Good win for Rocky. Incidentally, the knockdown is iffy. It looked like Floro may have been off balance, but he was hit beforehand and the ref made an immediate judgement call. Nothing wrong with that. Good fight, well worth watching.

 

Albert Davila v Alberto 'Superfly' Sandoval

Never knew this fight was out there. Two of my favorites from that era. Here we go, California adopted the 10 point system at this time.

Round 1: 10-10 Even
Round 2: 10-9 Sandoval
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 Davila
Round 5: 10-9 Sandoval
Round 6: 10-9 Davila
Round 7: 10-9 Davila
Round 8: 10-9 Davila
Round 9: 10-9 Davila
Round 10: 10-9 Davila

Total: 98-94 Davila

I have no idea what the actual scores were. There is nothing on boxrec and Jimmy Lennon is imperceptible on the video when announcing the victor. This wasn't a great fight, but an interesting one. Wanted to see it for years. Sandoval could have done with a few more fights under his belt before tackling Davila. He had been out for over 2 years with only a 10 round draw about 6 months earlier. And it showed. His timing wasn't the best and he got fatigued the last couple of rounds. He was lucky that there didn't appear to be great urgency in Davila's work. Perhaps because they grew up together, but then again, that didn't stop Davila from stunning Superfly a couple of times with right hands. Just great seeing these two in action again.

 

Another bout recently scored from the FOTW thread.

Outstanding fight. Here we go.

Rodrigo Valdez v Bennie Briscoe II (WBC middleweight title)

Round 1: 10-9 Valdez
Round 2: 10-9 Briscoe
Round 3: 10-9 Briscoe
Round 4: 10-9 Valdez
Round 5: 10-9 Valdez
Round 6: 10-10 Even
Round 7: Valdez stops Briscoe

Total through 6 completed rounds: 58-57 Valdez (actual scores: 59-57, 60-55 and 59-56 all for Valdez)

Keith Jackson, the commentator for WWS in this event, was what you might call a Utility Announcer. He could fill in practically at any sport without being a pro at a specific one. Although Football and College Football seemed to be his forte. Anyways, I thought he did a credible job on this fight except for the fact that he largely ignored Briscoe's body-punching, which I was always impressed with and felt was outstanding in this bout. Clearly this is reflective in my score, but maybe not others.

 

Danny 'Little Red' Lopez v Mike Ayala
WBC Featherweight Championship (1979)

Round 1: Lopez 10-9
Round 2: Ayala 10-9
Round 3: Ayala 10-9
Round 4: Ayala 10-9
Round 5: Lopez 10-9
Round 6: Lopez 10-9
Round 7: Lopez 10-8
Round 8: Ayala 10-9
Round 9: Ayala 10-9
Round 10: Lopez 10-9
Round 11 Lopez 10-8*
Round 12: Ayala 10-9
Round 13: Ayala 10-9
Round 14: Lopez 10-9
Round 15: Lopez KO

A terrific fight between two excellent featherweights. This was 1979's fight of the year.
Ayala, only 22 and fighting in front of his hometown fans, ranked number 1 contender, challenged the dangerous Danny Lopez.
This is what a fight between number 1 contender should be; a close, hard-fought fight with no quarter asked nor given.

The much shorter Ayala started well, going to the ropes on his own volition, content to counter Lopez and slip or block leather coming his way. I gave him 3 of the first 4 rounds based on effective counter-punching.
Lopez started to gain some momentum from the 5th round, scoring with some nice jabs and occasional right hand, scoring a knockdown in the 7th with what looked like a bodyshot.
Ayala, who was content to give ground and go to the ropes whenever he could, came back to score with several clean punches over the next 2 rounds, while Lopez seemed to give up on the body shots that gave him the knockdown.

Going into the 11th, I had Lopez one point to the good.
The 11th proved to be pretty controversial. Ayala went down from a punch, taking the count, a bit dazed but not seriously hurt. He got to his feet at the count of 10, but referee Carlos Padilla waved it off and sent Ayala (who wasn't complaining) back to his corner.
Fight over.
But wait, the timekeeper alleged that Ayala got up at the count of 9, and thus the fight should continue. A very bizarre moment and the first of it's kind I've seen.
So the ring is cleared and the fight continues, among much confusion.

The end came in the 15th round, where Ayala, whose nose had been bleeding and perhaps broken as early as the 3rd round, took two jolting rights to the jaw in the corner, where he went down and took the full count.
This time, there was no controversy or confusion. Lopez by KO in 15 hard rounds.

My card at the time was 135-132 Lopez.
Official scores:
135-132 Lopez
135-129 Lopez
131-134 Ayala

The final scorecard is hard to fathom, which was in favour of Ayala, at least according to Boxrec. Anyway, the knockout made the scores redundant.