How well would Sam Langford do today?

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    I may not know what im talking about but I know what im looking at. You can throw you historian knowledge at me to beat the band but guy wouldn't stand a chance against modern era CWs and HWs. Thats a fact as far as im concerned.

    The guys liking your posts believe Sam runs through Josuha , Fury Joyce and the like so which side are you really on? It ain't on the side of reality thats for sure. . People of Langfords size don't beat men with the size and skill of Joe Joyce. Its impossible
     
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  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    No , Canelo IS too small for light heavy. . Nobody gives him any chance of beating Beterbiev and a prime Kovalev would destroy him.
    Its a step to far for Canelo who is one of the best pure boxers of all time who and is physically larger then Langford
     
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  3. Samtotheg

    Samtotheg Active Member Full Member

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    lol says he knows what he is looking at thinks Joe joyce is a skilled boxer ! at this point I think dude is trolling.
     
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    Samtotheg Active Member Full Member

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    Einstein did you know Sam Langfords reach was 74 inch to Canelos 70 and hes only 2 inches shorter than Canelo, he also has 2 inch reach advantage over Sergey , You were right when you said you dont know what you are talking about, but also delusional to think you understand what you are looking at.
     
  5. Seamus

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    For what it is worth, I don't think Sam beats Fury or Joshua either.

    But he does very well at 160-175 and creates problems for the best at CW.
     
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  6. McGrain

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    That's ludicrous. The idea that a puncher like Sam Langford "wouldnt' stand a chance" against Arsen Goulamirian is as stupid as anything you've said in here. Even if you are completely correct and Langford would get "owned" by him, he hits hard enough to hurt Goulamirian, probably outreaches him, has a granite chin, and will remain dangerous for however long the fight lasts. "Wouldn't stand a chance" is an indefensible statement even if you are right about Langford.

    That's Langford walking out of a time machine and into a ring with Goulamirian.

    You're also apparently certain that Goulamirian would paste Sam in his own ring, using resin to keep grip, no gumshield, boxing 20 rounds. That, at the very least, is a strange point of view.

    Sam's height makes it very difficult for him to beat elite superheavies and I wouldn't personally pick him to beat Fury or Joshua.

    But, again, out of Langford being able to counter straight punches with slung hooks that contain dynamite to somehow wake the W, something he was a specialist in, and Langford being chanceless against Aleksei Papin, i'd prefer the former position every time.
     
  7. dinovelvet

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    Put Burt Cooper back in that era and he would clean house. But put in in the ring with past prime Foreman he gets lifted clean off the canvas and has to run back to his dressing room after only two rounds
     
  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Burt wouldn't win 200+ fights in any era. And certainly not beat greats in every division from lightweight to heavyweight.

    You're just wrong.
     
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  9. dinovelvet

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    Burt would beat every lightweight that ever lived from that era. . You wouldn't even pick Chavez Sr to beat Cooper.
    Its like saying Canelo would beat Dillian Whyte.. . Skill wouldn't matter. The weight of Whyte's punches would break Canelo.
     
  10. dinovelvet

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    And this has nothing to do what what i posted. . Because Burt was so small it allowed for Foreman to lift him clean of the canvas. Can you understand how this relates to Langford vs CWs and HWs??
     
  11. 70sFan865

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    but you said he couldn't compete at MW...
     
  12. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How is Canelo bigger or better than Sam...
     
  13. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cooper would be journeyman in any era. Langford would beat his ass.
     
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  14. Boxing GOAT

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    I think he does well between 154 - 168. If he competes with his skill set from 1912, he is eventually going to grab one of the alphabet belts in one of these weight classes. If he incorporates more modern methods of fitness and conditioning while working more on his footwork and head movement he can be a top five at any of those divisions. I don’t see him being competitive behind 175 today despite his endurance and ability to take punches from large HWs of his era such as Wills and Johnson.
     
  15. Seamus

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    My point being is that Langford was so incredible, he beat a guy like Gans (look him up) at lightweight, Walcott at welter (according to those at ringside), Ketchel at middle, Wills and just about every other heavyweight who dared face him. That is incredible range. And people are drooling over Toney on another thread because he almost held his own against middling heavies of his day (while on the gear) after being a middleweight earlier.

    I wouldn't pick Langford over Foreman but he would do better than Burt... straight out of the time machine.
     
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