Dariusz Michalczewski vs Canelo Alvarez in Light Heavyweight.

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  1. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. banned Full Member

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    Revisionist history.
    Ottke fought everybody outside of Cazaghe and in a short space of time.
    Brewer twice,Tate twice,Glen,Markussen,Reid,Starie,Larsen,Mitchell,Mundine,etc.
    You could argue his resume is better than Calzaghe’s at least pre Kessler.
     
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  2. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Actually he does knows, you might tell what you wish, he had faced even in am ranks a lot very high level super elite boxers and pro boxing is business there.
    What there is wrong? He was tickets seller in Germany like Canelo is in U.S, mainly looks that Nevada and Texas.

    If we will be fair, Canelo had beated up some easily beatable for him boxers and his fans are so happy.
    Kovalev, Khan are best examples.

    You might tell me how good Canelo is by beating up Khan who was very good welterweight boxer and still was not a KO artist at WW, not alone for Canelo size boxers.
    Kovalev? Sorry, no surprise that Kovalev had been finished. He barely won Yarde, almost had been stopped by Yarde.
     
  3. Aussie Invader

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    is calzaghe and ottke fighting at the same time, while they both help belts in the same division, lived an hour away from each other by plane, and yet both retired 'undefeated', "revisionist history"?

    at least calzaghe fought jones and hopkins, despite when it occured, but ottke - just like DM - didn't fight the best in his division, or the world.
    it's a common theme with german-based fighters and there is no excuse for it.
     
  4. Aussie Invader

    Aussie Invader Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    canelo can fight anyone he wants, doesn't need belts to get a lucrative TV deal, and makes a lot more money than the 'get a paper belt, a german TV contract, and milk it' german-based fighters.

    if all they wanted is money, that's fine.
    but don't try to make them out as something they were not, because (i'll keep repeating it) they did not fight the best fighters available.
    sugar-coat it any way you want, this fact doesn't change.
     
  5. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. banned Full Member

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    Nope,but that is the shitty business of boxing.
    Its why modern boxing is garbage and why Abraham-Sturm or Roy-Dariusz never happened.
    This is what I said,only the last few wins put Calzaghe over Ottke and even then not by much.
     
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  6. Aussie Invader

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    100% it's the "shitty business of boxing", but if DM really wanted roy, he knew what he had to do.
     
  7. The G-Man

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    Same goes for Roy.
     
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  8. Aussie Invader

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    P4P king, LHW king, fighting on the biggest stage of all.
    sorry bud, but you're in denial.
     
  9. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. banned Full Member

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    I am not denying any of that.
     
  10. Surrix

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    Ohh, you too are in denial: for you all best boxers are hometown boxers in US, they fought the best etc.

    Really? Nope.
    Canelo really is best proof: he fought shot Kovalev for a reason.
    He cherry picked also 36 y.o Floyd Jr, sadly this appeared not enough old.

    All these your boxers hometown things and heroes.:D
    Ohh, and money isn't priority for US boxers, they are saints and doesn't milk belts?
    LOL.



    Bunches with US boxers had milked their belts till vomit while you are posting " german thing " etc noise.
    The best in the world etc nonsense.
     
  11. Aussie Invader

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    how do you cherry pick a guy who has never lost a fight, and still hasn't?
    don't you find it a fantastic coincidence that all these german-based fighters never fought the best in the world?
     
  12. Surrix

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    He picked Floyd Jr because he was over the hill.
    Every one who had followed boxing seriously should know this.
    He didn't had picked up, my dear Canelo fanboy, prime Floyd Jr to fight with.
    Yeah, and also he cherry picked GGG and Canelo cherry picked as home town tickets seller, actually he is a bit worse there than Ottke in Germany.

    Nice and good coincidence, smart business people knew what will happen with officiating, ref and judges if they had fought A side cash cows in U.S.
    Did a lot of the best in the world rushed to fight vs Ottke in Germany?:D
    And sorry, if talking about " fighting the best " Ottke amateur resume urinates on all Canelo resume with a glance and laugh.
    Fighting the best, LOL.

    You are casual boxing fan and business mans ( fighters too are business mans there ) does knows how stupid, unforgiving, unskilled, idiotic, disrespectful are pro boxing fans.

    They are damn stupid, easily to manipulate and unforgiving people.
    Plus unskilled as fuc k.
    Mainstream average pro boxing fan never had even sparred hard once in his life.
    Sadly unlike a lot of hardcore KB fans for example.
     
  13. Surrix

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    That's it. Everyone wish to be a tickets seller and A side in city where he does have fight.
    For a business :nononoreason and psychological effect from yelling and supporting crowd.

    If someone does not agree with cash cow A demands, he is considered as " not fought the best ".
    LOL.
    The best cash cow? These pro boxers usually already are not even NOT the best, they are too old for top ammies.
     
  14. The Real Lance

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    DM was a long standing LtHW titlist. Canelo beat a shot to **** Kov then left the division. We aren't talking about the silly P4P better stuff, it's simply a H2H. You have a ton of posts in this thread for not thinking it should be a topic to discuss.
     
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  15. vargasfan1985

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    Don’t care

    RJJ is to blame as well

    They could have held the fight in a neutral country

    It’s over with
     
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