How well would Sam Langford do today?

I agree, that's why I never called anyone morons. I don't believe that all my opinions are the right ones, to be fair I don't know that much about boxing compared to some posters here.

In this specific situation, dinovelvet is wrong and White Bomber applauds his posts so both are wrong. They can have different opinions than mine, but it'd be better to build them around real observations and not biased inaccuraties.

This was probably the worst, but it's still opinion. Even ridiculous opinion isn't worse than a false statement provided by dinovelvet. I admit, this opinion is silly. That said, it's just one opinion in this thread not shared by the rest of Langford defenders. We've seen more than one opinion calling Langford bad boxer - isn't that ridiculous as well?

 

You couldn't see any Langford fight if you believe that he fought in a stance dinovelvet provided...

As far as I know, we don't have any Dixon or Leon fights. The one we have isn't a real fight, which you should know if you use this as an example.

 

I'm beginning to think you are actually stupid.
You don't get pushback on Facebook? Wow. Now that is really the place to be, isn't it?
You're just a kid, and not very bright. Your 'analysis' is blinkered and not at all interesting or educational. You make stuff up and see what you want to see.
And why are you training with modern trainers, or citing Mike McCallum, a modern fighter? I thought according to you, modern fighters don't get much right?
I had to stifle a laugh when in your video you claim that Leonard's footwork was not 'optimal' in one instance, or that Azumah Nelson did a shimmy in a specific instance... what was even your point there?
Your point about Canelo's high guard etc. etc.
Yes, tell me more how three highly talented, successful fighters get so much wrong. You really aren't doing yourself any favours at all.
Your don't even recognize that all the things you claim old-timers did, have been repeated over and over again for decades. How much boxing do you actually watch?

You're desperate to impress, but can't understand why almost nobody-except yourself-sees the genius of your so-called analysis or wisdom.
As I've said, the board has seen the likes of you many times. Your type come and go. Boring.

 

I have a feeling @Samtotheg and @Pat M is the same person.

 

Yes, it certainly is! No doubt he was a very, very good fighter.

But it's just as ridiculous when people (not you!) claim, he would beat everybody (including HWs) around today.

But, this being the internet, it's to be expected that a serious debate is out of the question! The pro-Langford crowd will make over-the-top proclamations about his greatness - while those who don't believe he could compete today, will go out of their way to "prove", how awful he was! I guess, it's more or less impossible to reach some kind of common ground, where we can have a sensible exchange of views, when it comes to these kinds of discussions... which of course is a great pity!

 

Here is undeniable ironclad proof that that stance was not a pose , but the actual fighting stance these men fought out of.

Angel shadow boxes from the same stance seen in the photos. . The motion he makes when throwing the right hander looks the same as a poll vaulter .
A few moments later he throws the same right hand from the same stance. .. There's no opinion involved here, this is factual based analytics.

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Firpo was regarded as a crude, primitive, unskilled slugger in his own era, so that's a terrible example.

 

If men fought like that today they's be laughed out of the ring ^ Not even David Boystoff or Maleek Scott level

 

Harry looks no better. . He actually reminds me of Vitali Klitschhko , who also had poor technique.

These men can't throw jabs without thrusting their whole body forward. Different era.

 

Why don't you use the footage of actual Langford fight instead...?

 

I agree, both sides are ridiculous. Not an uncommon thing on this boars unfortunately...

What's your thought about Langford today? Do you think he'd be able to compete at higher weights like LHW? I don't think he'd try HW division, CW isn't out of reach but he'd be already at huge size disadvantage and money isn't there, so I think he'd stop at LHW. Do you think he'd stop at MW instead? Or lower?

 

Which basically proves that you're not the best at judging talent, as Vitali is certainly one of the best fighters of the last 20 years.

 

Sounds like Hagler !

[url]https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/the-marvin-hagler-jab-thread.666869/[/url]

 

There's actually trunk rotation and footwork involved in those jabs. . Its different to lungung in with your arm and then being totally off balance

 

A lot of people in this thread need to take of there nostalgia tinted glasses.

Without a doubt one of the greatest of his time but put those from that era in a time machine and they come unstuck. Far too crude.