If AJ does vacate WBO belt vs USYK is that a duck?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by timeout, May 25, 2021.


AJ dumps the WBO belt is a massive duck?

  1. Hell no ! AJ is just frustrated because Fury fight fell through.

  2. AJ ass just prolapsed when he heard he's fighting USYK

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  1. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You think like if Pulev is heavier and significantly older and slower than Usyk, then to beat Usyk in 3 rounds will be possible, while to beat Pulev took him 9 rounds?

    Pulev btw looked vs A.J far worse than even Parker vs Chisora or Chisora vs Parker or Usyk vs Chisora or Chisora vs Usyk, use what you wish.
    He ( Pulev ) delivered almost nothing there. :nonono
    This was most likely easiest opponent A.J had during recent years. :);)

    Okey, I know that in forums if some boxer is former CW boxer at HW, he is considered as puny and so on.
    While the same former CW boxers like Haye and Bellew performed at HW not that bad. Bellew even was undefeated at HW.
     
  2. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Haye moved like 27-28 years old. And he also have injuries problem. I don`t think people realize the difference to stay and fight at certain weight for very long time, and then in your 30s to change all of that, and go high in the weight.
    Usyk suffer and struggle from injuries since moving to HW. Its not a coincidence, you know?
    It was the same story with Hate. He first have back problems, than the shoulder problems and so on.
    And Bellew is example for what exactly? Who exactly he fight at HW ? Totally out of prime and injury struggle CW in Haye 2 times and that was all his journey at HW.
    No matter how you look it, Usyk team made garbage decision so far.
    Unless he win the HW title from Joshua, his whole transition was terrible.
    And only a complete bias hater will say it otherwise.
     
  3. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Usyks manager about to go live on TalkSPORT to give an update.


    For those of you who haven't got access right now, I'll keep you informed.
     
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  4. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Since ? that is not true. He was injured long before he moved up. It's his style of training, that makes him like that, not the weight gain.

    People still pushing the narrative about him being small, OMG :fighting02:
     
  5. N17

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    Usyks promoter.. Alexander Krassyuk saying..

    They are in the middle of negotiations with Hearn.

    The fight if it takes place, late August or early September.

    Unlikely AJ will vacate, negotiations going smoothly.

    Says he can't see any reasons negotiations won't go well.
     
  6. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Asked what happens if Usyk beats AJ what he will do next..

    He joked that Usyk will go to the moon first, then mars and then said..

    "When Usyk becomes undisputed..."


    Me speaking now, Which would mean he would go after winner of Fury Vs Wilder and he didn't mention a rematch.
     
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  7. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They have the time until the end of may.
     
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  8. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    before this.

    Yes. The same agenda " Usyk won vs Briedis easily " is absolute and total bull****.
    Facts are that his fight vs Gassiev ( next after fight vs Briedis ) had been a bit delayed cos Usyk's injury, looks that elbow problem.
    I will not buy agenda that this had happened in training because Usyk had very long and successful experience, long mileage under belt to train for competing vs prime shape elite amateurs in top level tournaments and in semi pro ranks.
    Usyk was amateur superstar not only cos he does have Oympic Gold medal, this is only 1 from his achievements in sport before he moved had turned a pro.
    He had in the ring in the same am ranks boxers like Beterbiev in his prime and Beterbiev then was amateur boxing star in good shape, not old.
    Russo, his level for sure not worse if not better than Dorticos, Gassiev or Briedis did had and for sure far above prime Glowacki level.
     
  9. gollumsluvslave

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    I think Usyk was the CLEAR winner against Breidis, but it was still a close, competetive fight and was not easy by any stretch.

    Maybe my top fight of the last 10 years for quality, it was really high throughout.
     
  10. BoxerToxer

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    He could have stopped Pulev earlier. Maybe there was some betting issue involved.
     
  11. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye in forums suffers casual disrespect because he earlier was CW boxer and these are considered as puny, small etc.
    While he was larger than damn a lot of opponents for the same hyped up till heaven Ali, including Frazier.
    He was 217-219 lber at HW and get well known exactly after his notable fight vs old over the hill super sized giant in Valuev.
    After this his paychecks increased dramatically and I will repeat, this dude was larger than a lot of earlier era notable HW boxers, damn.
    Now he is small CW, CW is like curse here. Damn, even prime Huck was more huge bloke than Frazier in 70 ies.

    Bellew?
    You think his move to HW was bad choice?
    He won via decision Masternak for Euro CW title and get not big money, then ofc better $ when he beat current CW WBC champion in Makabu who then was even younger and more fresh.
    Then he did not fought his WBC mandatory for CW belt:nonono and vacated belt, moved to HW where yeah, he had fought vs Haye.
    He get more popular, purses for 2 nd fight even better and he was enough known in U.K.
    Then he ( no excuses there with these dual standards ) wished to be undisputed at CW and ( yeah, excuses there are in place cos he is UK boxer not Ukrainian boxer ) demanded that fight vs Usyk should be in U.K and with all Usyk's belts on line at CW.
    He get high attention, good tickets sales and purse for this fight.
    If he did not had fought at HW vs Haye, not likely he had get such $ for this.

    Garbage decision?

    He now most likely had more problems vs Makabu than vs both : Chisora and Witherspoon fights together.
    I know: I is heavyweight holy mantra.

    Damn, Chisora will not beat Makabu and struggle vs him not less than vs Usyk if not more.
     
  12. Wizbit1013

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    I have no idea what your on about

    Pulev is a tough SOB if anything

    Bottom line
     
  13. lordlosh

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    Bro you can`t give a example with someone who decide to fight 2 fight in the so call HW division against an absolutely sh*** version of a CW in Haye eyes. And he was back at the CW.
    There was plenty of option for money fight in CW for Usyk if he was to stay in there.
    Unless he win against Joshua, his run at HW is a complete joke.
    You got to be blind to claim something else.
    As far as his injuries, you both are talking nonsense. Usyk have small elbow injury, and the fight was delayed, but he still fight 3 time that year.
    And what happen at HW? Just 2 fight for 3 year time ....
    Even they admitted he had problem with the weight. And yeah when you whole life are used to fighting and training and staying in certain shape changing weight will make you more prone to injury, everyone with brain know this, esp. on your late 30s.
    Big mistake from Usyk team.
    The only way i could be prove wrong is if he is to beat Joshua and win the HW title. Then his switch to HW will be worth it.
    And you know boxing is not just earning x amount of money.
     
  14. Surrix

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    For a reason.
    While to defeat his WBC belt vs prime version of Briedis was too high risk / low reward because he not likely had traveled till british home town casual cards vs prime Briedis regardless how dumb posters there will yell.
    To fight for Absolutely Undisputed Status in CW division for ALL major belts on the line, including The Ring belt get damn high attention.
    If Bellew had won this one, he had get till sure candidate to HOF as Undisputed champion in CW division hated in forums.
    What kind of fights? Rematch vs Briedis, while you might ***** till your death and you will ***** till your death and last breath he barely had won first fight vs Briedis regardless of bitching and stupid western comments.
    U really are so sure? Usyk was not so sure and better fought vs Bellew. :D
    To fight vs Dorticos? You damn are so sure that Chisora might last 12 rounds vs him cos he is british boxer?
    LOL.
    Who else?
    Makabu? Makabu most likely had throwed more punches on Usyk if they had to fight in 10 rounds than Witherspoon and Chisora had did in these 2 fights.
    He might beat Okolie? You are so sure?

    His condition looks like good if he will last till cards vs Makabu.

    Complete joke are pro boxing fans and they not rare cases are stupid, tribal, nationalistic biased idiots.:D Obsessed also with weight classes, fighter's origin and so on bull****.
    Of course it is not but you again are selfish guy.
    You are joke.

    If someone will atempt beat you for xx xxx or xxx xxx digits purse for you or x xxx xxx digits for you there will not be difference.:campeon:
     
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  15. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, I think he should had picked other career at least after he get at least some xxx xxx on account. It doesn't matters even if he had beated up Usyk and KTFOed him out cold.
    He is less marketable than Usyk and does come from country maybe even less suitable for pro boxing career than EE or ofc Western euro.
    Small Northern european country and in West usually considered as EE, in EE usually not considered as EE country in depth.
    Should had picked another way to continue earn for a living rather than pro boxing.

    Pro boxing is more suitable if you are from U.S, Mexico, U.K, at least Ireland etc.
    Okey, Germany too and some other countries.
    Nothing much more and boxers origin matters damn more than other things there.

    From other point yeah, if you wish to see fight elite boxer vs very good kickboxer under boxing rules then there it was.