Who Stops Nikolai Valuev

No, Wilder actually regressed due to over confidence and laziness

He boxed well in the Olympics and its rare to see a boxer in a US team get chosen with that little ability

 

Yeah but that was then, im referring to Wilder in the pros as in 2019 Wilder, the one that one shotted Breazeale. He showed some form of skill against Stiverne bur he abandoned that for pure punching power

 

And that giant never showed any ability

Never

 

Wilder landed a lot of counter jabs on Fury in their first fight, Fury only landed ten more punches than Wilder in that fight but would have boxed Valuev`s ears off with ease.

 

The boxers that won silver and gold in that games would not have become world champs in the pros, it`s far harder to become a pro world champ than to win a bonze in the olympics.

 

Both became champs

 

Probably Mirko, but even that's not happening.

 

Okay, none of that word salad answers the asked question "is Wilder a better pure boxer (or more specifically, jabber) than Valuev", nor does it provide any empirical data to refute the insinuated subtext that no the **** he ain't.

 

Haye, for all his heavyweight flaws, could have quite comfortably had he went for it the last 3 round rather than just the 12th

 

It depends from an opponent, his age, shape etc. Notice period.
In amateurs there are not 0-10 and even 0-12 boxers for fight even at national level. In pros yeah, fights also boxers who never had won 1 single fight. 1 single fight and with 0 draws too.

A/m tournaments, it depends who you will get in prelims and later.
For high level am tournaments everyone does knows fights cycle calendar and clubs/ national teams will not put there out of shape dudes.
They cares more about medals and cups they had delivered, doesn't matters fighters surnames like in pro boxing.

In the same even euro level championship you might get to fight vs dude who is 2X World Championship Gold medalist and Olympic medalist or some Beterbiev, Russo, Usyk, Loma, DLH and Ward level dudes there.
Lottery.

 

Not likely and he looks that had really had ****ed hand by punching Valuev. Valuev is huge bloke.

Haye even did not had landed on Valuev anything really important and still Valuev landed on him almost 0 there.
Don't worry, I had read up some russian forums and their fans opinions about this fight.
They almost all had scored fight for Haye and I think even in Russia Haye had get decision vs this Valuev version from this fight.

 

Never being down at heavyweight and doing so at world level is a hell of an achievement but what murderous punchers did Valuev face exactly? Ruiz, Oldyfield, Donald, McCline, Chagaev? Haye fought half terrified and wobbled him badly in the 12th with a great shot. His got a solid beard but I think plenty of world level heavyweights could have done the job on their night

 

Ohh, this story. Haye had declined after this fight, while yeah, he was famous after this.

If you think that Chagaev punced less hard than Haye and maybe was someone puny then there for you:
Haye weighted 217 lbs vs Valuev while Chagaev 228 lbs and then already had finished in distance 17 pro boxers.

Also if about these damn predictable talks : I expect posts like " Chagaev fought no one " then his am resume alone urinates on 90% pro boxers resumes with a glance.
Chagaev had fought also " nobody " called Felix Savon.

 

Not that valuev was sugar ray by any means but if wilder had the same (very limited) boxing ability as valuev to go with his freakish power he'd be an all time great

 

That win alone puts him above the entire heavyweight division of today