It was actually my first full watch of the fight, before that i was just looking at some of the highlights and been with the general opinion that Fury was robbed, and Wilder clearly lost the fight. Let me say that i`m not a fan of both fighters, and even if i was i never put bias when commentating or score a fight. Its good to say that i was playing back every moment where i wasn't sure if the punch was landed or not, so there is exactly zero chance of making a mistake. Here is my scorecards and after that i will comment on certain rounds why i score them like that. Fury - Wilder 9 - 10 9 - 10 10 - 10 10 - 10 10 - 9 10 - 9 10 - 9 10 - 10 8 - 10 10 - 9 10 - 9 8 - 10 114 - 115 Wilder Now i have 3 even rounds, because there was pretty much nothing to separate them. And if i actually got to split them into someone, it would actually be Wilder. Like in the 4th for example, Wilder open a cut to Fury with a hook, and Fury pretty much landed nothing in that round, except for 1 partial jab, and 1 blocked hook on Wilder gloves. There was very close rounds, that i pretty much gave to Fury. But people on here obviously are scoring rounds for Fury, for pretty much doing flashy stuff, but actually doing nothing. You can`t score rounds for Fury, cause he is putting his hands behind the back or raising his hand after every round. He wasn`t throwing much, and most of the jabs he was throwing was either blocked by Wilder or missed. People give him rounds by default, for his super defense, but things not working like that. First super defense mean when you roll/dodge/avoid/miss enemy punches and come with your own, and counter him, what Floyd Mayweather was doing for example. The only time Fury was actually making Wilder miss and then make him pay was in the rounds were Wilder score a KD, and was going absolutely wild. To be fair Fury needed 40-50 sec. to recover, after the KD, in both occasion and before start throwing punches. In that time he survive, cause Wilder is idiot, who was swinging like a amateur, and Fury manage to tied him up in the clinch. So this also bust the myth about Fury incredible recovery. There is also 2 more factors, that people not consider, that Wilder was the aggressor, and was actually looking to fight, which a lot of judges reward. And also that he was the Champion, and by default you should either give a super close round to the Champ or score it even(not much people doing it). I expect someone to come and say, that in a lot of rounds Wilder did not land clean, yeah but he was still landing partially, for example with the overhead right on Fury side of the head, or body punches, and while usually if the other fighter manage to land even equal of the same punches, but clean i would give him the round, no matter if its a jab or right hand(i didn`t fall to score rounds for WIlder, cause he was pretty much throwing landing mostly power punches, compare to Tyson jabs), but here is the thing. Fury was way too inactive, and all he was doing was playing a clown, and throwing arm punches landing on thin air far from Wilder. I`m sorry to dissapoint so many people on here, but even with a slight bias to Fury, at very best Wilder still won the fight with the score i give. People probably score the fight for Fury, cause he was inactive for so long and manage to do better than people expected, but that's not how you score the fight. If Fury actually not getting down on the 12 round, then you may have a case for him winning, but no way he won that fight. So Fury should have been happy with the draw.
So you didn't give Fury a single round until the 5th? And shouldn't those even rounds be 10-10? How did you arrive at 9-9 in any of those?
According to the Nevada State Commission handbook, 9-9 denotes an even round fought between two boxers you really hate ....
Hahaha To be fair, I'll give him a pass if he tells me he has been up all night watching the fights. Happens to the best of us, long nights, no sleep, fuzzy brains.. Well that's the excuse I use when I go off the rails
You blind or what? 5-6-7-10-11 all for Fury. My bad for the even rounds to it should be 10-10. Don`t know why i write them 9-9. Probably cause i`m sick with Corona(for real) atm. I edited it.
I agree with your underlying argument however you've let yourself down in the execution. Not to mention I just bumped a Wilder Fury 1 scorecard thread which is still on the first page of general. I guess if your 9-9s are changed to 10-10s you still get a Wilder win. But yes I do agree that Fury putting on a clinic in the first fight is hyperbole. However he removed all doubt with the second fight. We're 8 weeks away from the 3rd fight and I hope it doesn't get postponed!
Already starting to push that narrative yeah ? He never lost, and never got a draw. always win, he can't lose and all this kind of BS. I see a lot of youtube fanboy channels saying the same thing.
I like your 9-9s. Don't change for anybody. Even though it's a 10 point must system, for even rounds I think it would be better if we could choose between 9-9 or a 10-10. This way, fighters would be rewarded for how hard their work in a round and how many punches they land, thy would have to earn a 10 instead of one fighter being guaranteed to get a 10 every round no matter how lackluster or poor a round is. What if both fighters didn't land enough punches? If both fighters don't throw any punches in a round and it's a very low output round, like many of the rounds in Fury Wilder 1 were, 9-9 would make more sense than 10-10, but if both fighters are landing a lot of punches, and it's too close to pick a winner, then 10-10 is more appropriate. That way you reward fighters with more points who deserve more points. Rather than giving fighters the same # of points regardless of how hard they work. The 10 point must system is like a participation award. Someone always has to get a 10. I know that's how it is in boxing, and it's the accepted way of scoring, and I am fine with it, but all I'm saying is I think it would be better if even rounds were scored either 9-9 or 10-10 because there's a difference between a low output, lackluster even round where neither fighter is throwing vs a high output even round where both fighters are going balls to the wall and both fighters deserve a 10 more if they are working harder than fighters who don't throw punches in a round.
Yeah my bad for the 9-9 rounds, it happen to the best of us. I know how to score fight, and i know the rules. Just messed. Still i correct it, and admit that i made a mistake, but i don't get how that exactly downplay my opinion. People on here obviously scored rounds for Fury, for doing nothing, and actually landing nothing, cause he was super inactive most of the time, just feinting and feinting, put his hands behind his back, dodging punching but did not counter/throw anything in exchange. And when a Fighter 1 do nothing, and Fighter 2 actually throw punches and partially land on them, for example like on the side of the head when Fury was weaving, and Wilder manage to land there, ofc not full force, but you going to score the round for the guy that actually land something, not for the guy that just act like a clown, but actually do nothing in that round. And as i said i score some of the super close round to him, even tho they were dead even, and some of the even rounds could have been in DW favor. And whoever is dumb enough to call me Wilder fanboy or so, just check my history. I don`t remember even 1 good word for Wilder from me. I still think he is a terrible boxer, and hypejob, but no way Fury won that fight, and forget the narrative that he won it clearly. But the funny part is people on here don`t have arguments to backup. Its obvious from the moment you see they are going on personal attack. This is the clear sign of someone don`t have anything to backup his own word.
I agree with you lordlosh, and I think your 9-9s while technically incorrect given the scoring system, is more representative of many of those rounds where neither guy was throwing enough punches, so why should both be rewarded with a 10-10 for doing next to nothing? But those rounds were even, so a 9-9 is more accurate based on what happened in those rounds. And by the way people talk about a 10 point must system, but how about a round that one fighter wins the round but is deducted a point by the ref? Then it's a 9-9. Because a judge scored it 10-9, satisfying the 10 point must requirement, but then the round winner was deducted a point from the ref making it a 9-9.
