ATG: Who Ranks Higher, Canelo or Donaire?

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ATG: Who Ranks Higher?

This poll will close on May 29, 2031 at 9:11 PM.
  1. Nonito Donaire Jr.

    59 vote(s)
    59.6%
  2. Canelo Alvarez

    40 vote(s)
    40.4%
  1. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Yeah I meant to add etc. but was tired as hell.
     
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  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All the catchweights in title fights were demanded by his opponents. (Floyd, Cotto, Khan) So those situations Canelo was at a disadvantage by the catchweight, not an advantage. For Chavez Jr it was a non-title fight 10+ lbs north of where he had been fighting previously. Lara and the others at 155 were non-title fights. There's no advantage to agreeing to fight 1 lb north of a weight division when there's no title on the line, because since it's a non-title fight, there's no consequence to not making weight anyway.

    For you to use these examples as something to use in an ATG comparison is mental lol. The rehydration clauses, he was fighting much bigger fighters at weight classes above his natural weight. So he was already giving away a ton of weight and putting himself at a disadvantage by making those fights, and he refused to drain his opponents by demanding a catchweight. Further the fighters who agreed to the rehydration clauses like Kovalev had no history of putting on weight overnight after making weight. And Jacobs didn't even comply with it or participate in it, after he complained about it to the IBF and got the rule changed, which gave him an unfair functional advantage vs both GGG and Canelo according to the IBF's own rules.

    Bribed judges, that's a conspiracy that people who don't know how to score boxing matches say to try to discredit Canelo's wins and accomplishments. It's pathetic. PEDs? Eating a piece of comtanimated meat at a restaurant. You call that doping? Get real.
     
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  3. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Clenelo's a drug user.
     
  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's a meat eater.
     
  5. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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  6. Young Terror

    Young Terror ★ Griselda ★ Full Member

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    One is clean the other is clen.

    This is a no brainer.
     
  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Canelo has proven he's clean. He's the most rigorously tested athlete in the sport and has never failed a test besides the meat contamination situation. We don't rate fighters based on who we think are on something. We rate them on their skills, performances, accomplishments. To try to make an ATG comparison about anything other than in-ring results and performances is having lost the plot.
     
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  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He loves the beef.:sisi1
     
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  9. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Donaire beats down a scrub just like he used to at the lower weights and now he returns to the all time great lists? :lol:
     
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  10. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    This was basically Nonito's first good win since Nishioka; I'm not counting Burnett. His best win is Vic Darchinyan. Also, it's not his fault, but the small divisions he cleaned up back then weren't that deep.

    Nonito deserves every bit of a spot in the HOF, but his career never reached the level Canelo is currently on.
     
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  11. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Clean athletes dont serve bans
     
  12. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This isn't about ggg , And Canelo already beat him. In fact ggg resume is very weak Canelo >>>> ggg in ATG
     
  13. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whatever make you sleep at night Canelo already beat his a$$ and will rank higher ATG ggg resume is very weak deal with it.
     
  14. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Aww shaddap !!
     
  15. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    More likely it was Gingers stacked wraps