Does Wlad Go Thru Holmes Title Opponent's, With Out A Loss??

What does Larry have to do with the equation?? Is that what you're asking me?

Go watch Larrys fights with Shavers. . Watch how he boxed and moved fluidly around the ring while throwing a rapier like jab.

Thats how he had to beat Shavers , with constant movement around the ring. . Wlad couldn't box like that which is why he went life and death with Peters.
Wlad didn't beat Peters , he survived him.

Larry took Shavers to school with boxing on the backfoot but Shavers still caught Larry with a shot that would have damaged Wlads ability to stay in the fight.
Simple fact is WK didn't could do to a lesser version of Shavers what you propose he would do to the real Shavers , so you are arguing opinions over facts

Even 43 year old Larry would outbox Sam Peter in cruise control. . ray Mercer proves that as fact , not opinion.

 

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Norton has a chance at Knocking Wlad out, but a good big man beats a good little man.
And like i said Norton was shot against Holmes.

 

Holmes must have been crap then.

 

"It's a style make fight" thing.
He also made other master outboxers like Jimmy young and Ali look like crap.

 

Do you think he was shot against Young too ?

 

Then he might well go unbeaten.

However Wlad lost three times, before this point, while Holmes navigated the icebergs of his early career.

The biggest barrier to Wlad matching Holmes's 48 0, is that he most likely loses on the way up.

 

lol much, much less then Wlad beat Shavers the reason Sammy gave Wlad issues was he was bigger, stronger and a LOT more durable.

 

Probably not. He was maybe in his prime when he fought ali 3 times.

 

We are overlooking one crucial opponent Larry Holmes had to face during his reign: Randall "Tex" Cobb. Wladmir has the reach and skill advantage, sure, but how long can the bones in his hands last? Not only was Cobb's chin so tough that he considered a rematch just further abuse of poor Larry's hands, Larry made note of the Texans daunting physical strength and noted that he was the strongest opponent he faced.

In other words, the combination of a cinder block chin and tremendous physical strength was bad news style wise for Wlad who relied on his power and wrestling to break guys down and tire them out in the clinches then peppering then with heavy 1-2's on the outside. It is quite possible Wladmir may even injure himself or gas out attempting to take Cobb out like he did against the tough chinned Ross Purity or Lamon Brewster.

"But this is the experienced Wladmir under Steward", ok? Are you proposing he jabs and grabs and leans on Cobb until he becomes too fatigued to fight back? Actually that would be even worse. Wrestling and attempting to tire Cobb out would backfire as Cobb has both the strength and cardio advantage--able to remain on his feet for 15 rounds while getting nailed by flush bombs. It would end up being Cobb getting the better of him in this department and dragging Wlad into deep waters.

No matter how you slice it, Wladmir ends up gassing out. Cobb stops Wladmir late maybe around 11-13th round TKO.

 

Perhaps , perhaps not.
Martin Wach had durability , no issues were caused.

Peters gave issues by coming forward and applying pressure. Shavers was better and quicker at applying the pressure and arguably hit harder than Peter. Putting Klitschko on the retreat with heavy handed pressure takes the blunt force off his punches. There's no reason why Shaver can't do what Peter did. .

 

Holmes goes through Wladimirs run much easier and even more likely than Wladimir goes through Holmes run. However, Wladimir still goes through Holmes opposition.

 

LOL@you

WK was derailed by two punch bags in Purrity/Brewster and waxed by a part time Boxer Golfer.....in his "Prime" with a ton of Pro fights under his belt and a distinct Amateur career before......

Holmes went 48-0 and while getting old lost against a undefeated Michael Spinks. and Spinks is wayyyyyyyyyyyy above the fringe Palookas that send WK packing ...............there is no fakking way that WK goes undefeated for 48............lol... the proof is in the pudding, he would and will be beat by some ham and eggers, Fact.

 

Wladimir should easily beat Cobb. If he doersn't kayo Cobb he should be able to easily outbox him. Can't see how Larry's assessment of Cobb's strength is relevant given he fought smaller men than Klitschko did.

Cobb's chin is also not proven against many big hitters. The only big puncher he fought was a faded Shavers. It's a bit of a stretch of credit him with an undentable chin when he didn't face many huge hitters and was brutally stopped by Dee Collier.

 

This thread specifies a prime, form Wladimir. Not the one that got bounced off the canvas by a few different dudes. It's like saying Lennox Lewis loses H2H against most or all of the 25 best HWs ever. After all, he got flattened a couple times by relative nobodys. Picking against an ATG in fights with non-HOF'ers is quite a proposition. It would be like having Devin Haney on a P4P list right now. "Well I personally think and see...!" Could it happen? Absolutely. But you're going to pick one outright to beat him? Have fun.