Mayweather Pacquiao: Who really won

When Iv gate was exposed, the only thing that should have been done was make the fight a N/C. But the $$$$$$ involved made that impossible. No way should Floyd have ever been given a winning decision

 

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Im only going by hearsay........

 

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Pac clearly won 3-4 rounds and about another 4 were close enough to swing. Had it been in Manila, and the bias swung the other way, I guarantee Pac wins.

Judges had it fairly close, 116-112 in Floyds literal backyard so that about says it all.

If I was scoring it impartially, it was a 7-5, 8-4 type of fight, but it was much closer than people would have it.

People just tend to go overboard with how clear the fight was. I can agree that Pac-Bradley 1 was very close, so was Pac-Horn, and both close fights, the decision didn't go his way.

The rounds Floyd won, I'm not sure how he won. Landed a couple more jabs? I mean there is a guy here that says he only won round 4? lol, you mean the round Pac clearly had Floyd hurt? That's the bias right there, Floyd lands a jab, clear round. For Pac to win a round, got to beat the chit out of Floyd on the ropes and have his dad call him scared.

 

Here's my point; rounds 6 which apparently someone here thinks Pac only won round 4. Pac was the one who landed cleanly on Floyd, hurt him, had him on the ropes for most of the round, landed the harder shots whereas most of Floyd's shots were pinpoint taps.

The act of Floyd seemingly in control from range and Pac jumping, swinging and missing a lot seems to have biased the fans into thinking Floyd clearly won.

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One judge had it 10 rounds to 2. The difference between 8-4 and 10-2 was rounds 9 and 10, Moretti gave those to Floyd, so those rounds, rounds 9 and 10 are the rounds we need to review if we're to gauge if it was really a blowout or if it was a close fight.

Ya think? People tend to go overboard when it comes to Floyd Mayweather.

I agree those were very close but still people on this forum call Pac Bradley 1 a robbery and call Pac Horn a robbery. In regard to Pac Bradley 1 the HBO commentary were very pro-Pacquiao and that more than anything else played a role in people thinking it was a clear win. Pac Horn had Teddy Atlas slobbering over Pacquiao all night. These pro-Pacquiao biased commentators and unofficial scorers like Harold Lederman played a major role in people thinkng Pac won these fights clearly and the verdict was a robbery. If these fights were presented with no commentary a lot more people would come away thinking the verdicts were fair.

How do you think he beat Canelo? It was with the jab, in most rounds the power punches were even but Floyd would land a couple more jabs and that would win him an otherwise close round. People claim Floyd beat Canelo 12 rounds to 0 lol, talk about going overboard. He lands a couple more jabs per round and all of a sudden it's a domination. Don't get me wrong, Floyd had an excellent jab and it won him a lot of close rounds in some of his biggest fights, but it's just a jab. He's not doing anything out of the ordinary to win rounds. Canelo was too inexperienced to slip that jab and get inside, and Pac was too injured to do any real damage outside of a couple brief moments. So when you're not landing anything eye catching on Floyd, and Floyd is being elusive all round, those few jabs per rounds are all the judges notice that landed, so it's no wonder Floyd won so easily vs Pac.

 

The judges in Vegas scored a round in bias towards Floyd, didn’t see that coming. That’s equivalent to having the fight in Manila.

Harold lederman and many had first few rounds for Pac for example. Round 3 was ridiculously close yet none of the judges had it for Pac. You can rewatch that round, turn off the sound and really watch it and tell me that’s a “blowout”.

the difference between Pac and Canelo was that Pac was actually landing. He was also making Floyd miss, Floyd had his lowest connect percentage. So Floyd wasn’t doing anything and Pac would throw a flurry and he got 0 points for that because it wasn’t clear shot.

 

Hmmm Lederman had it 117-111 Mayweather. Farhood had it 118-110 Mayweather. So Lederman only had Pac winning 3 rounds total, Farhood only 2 rounds. I don't remember what rounds Lederman gave to Pacquiao but if he gave the first few rounds to Pac then he would have given the rest of the rounds to Floyd.

No, Canelo landed way more on Floyd than Pac did. Compubox had Canelo landing 117 punches, Pac only 81. And according to compubox, Canelo landed more than twice as many jabs on Floyd than Pac did. Of course this was because Floyd was standing right in front of Canelo more so he Floyd was in punching range eating more jabs. Pac had to actually cut off the ring vs Floyd to get into punching range, which is why Pac landed so few jabs. Pac also doesn't work beind the jab that much anyway. Pac typically likes to throw more combinations, but he coudn't get off 1) because he was injured and 2) because he was chasing Floyd around the ring all night trying to get in range.

Floyd landed a lot less on Pac than he did on Canelo, that's true. He also threw a lot less vs Pac, but the % was much lower too. Canelo Mayweather was more of a firefight than Mayweather Pac, Floyd was much more aggressive vs Canelo and of course it was a much better version of Floyd who fought Canelo, closer to his prime.

Most of that difference though was jabs. Vs Canelo, he was much more active with the jab, according to Compubox Floyd landed 40 more jabs than Power punches, and he threw nearly twice as many jabs as power punches, but vs Pacquiao, Floyd is credited with landing 14 more power punches than jabs. Though I think those jabs landed #s are a little inflated vs Canelo, there's no denying that he landed a ton of jabs on Canelo, and many of them landed flush. That was the problem for Canelo, he simply ate far too many jabs. If he would have used more head movement like he developeed later in his career, he would have won more rounds because he did land a lot of solid jabs on Floyd and when he did land power punches many of them were effective. So while Floyd was more offensive-minded vs Canelo, he was also much more active with the jab than he was vs Pacquiao. So I agree that Pacquiao was more elusive vs Mayweather but he also landed a lot less than Canelo did beacuse Canelo was willing to eat jabs and stay in punching range. Also Floyd wasn't in retreat vs Canelo as much as he was vs Pac.

 

Mayweather landed the most punches in round 6 in which he lost the round on all three scorecards. He out landed pac in that round also. There is a good article by Steve Weisfeld which he explains how he scores fights (clean punching). The judges were unanimous in 10 of the 12 rounds (8 for floyd). This does not happen by accident. I don't care how many *******s say otherwise. The judges said afterwards that this was one of the easiest fight to score.

 

In slow mo Floyd
In fast forward mode Pac
In regular normal viewing—FLOYD

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This thread needs more "bbbut slow motion doe"

 

Floyd won clear.
I do think it was a bit closer than many make it out to've been, but still a clear win.