Mentally stable Golota vs Foreman.

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  1. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think that Golota was physically strong enough to cause Foreman some problems, of course with all that Golota should be mentally completely ready, what do you think?
     
  2. Curtis Lowe

    Curtis Lowe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is no such thing as a "mentally stable" Golota.
     
  3. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I love the multiple entities certain fighters have become, like "Montreal Duran," "Tokyo Douglas," "Old Foreman," or "Mentally Stable Golota."
     
  4. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well Montreal Duran, Tokyo Douglas and old Foreman were real people. Never was such thing as a mentally stable Golota
     
  5. Xplosive

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    End thread right here.

    We can't gift a fighter with traits they never possessed.

    What's next? "Iron chinned" Terry Norris vs Mike McCallum?

    Golota was a headcase, and Foreman would blow him out the water.

    But in this case, I'll even give you what you want - let's say Golota WASN'T a headcase... Foreman still destroys him. Golota was too straight up (which allowed Lewis to nail him so easily), too hittable, and had no concept of how to clinch.

    So sane Golota, unstable Golota, don't matter... he gets KO'd by Foreman.
     
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  6. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I hate to hijack a thread, but how do you guys see Mentally Stable Golota faring against Lightning Fast Wepner or Defensive Genius Cobb?
     
  7. Xplosive

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    This comparison makes zero sense. As Reinhardt correctly said, "Montreal Duran", and "Tokyo Douglas" are valid versions of said fighters to use.

    "Stable" Golota doesn't exist. It's like saying "Power punching" Ivan Calderon.

    These are mythical matchups, but bestowing fighters with traits they never possessed is toooooo mythical.
     
  8. Xplosive

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    I think he would have stylistic issues with Granite Chinned Clifford Ettiene.
     
  9. salsanchezfan

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    Dude, relax; it's just an attempt at a little light-heartedness.
     
  10. Xplosive

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    People really need to stop with the false narrative that being a headcase was Golota's ONLY flaw. Too many people act like Golota was otherwise perfect, and it's just false.

    Golota was too upright, he often slapped with his left hook, he had no idea how to clinch, he was crappy as an infighter, and he didn't have much stamina.

    Being a headcase was his biggest flaw, not his only flaw.

    Golota groupies will have you thinking that Golota was Eder Jofre if not for his mental problems.
     
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  11. NoNeck

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    Golota probably would take this in 97. It’s like he’d be fighting Tyson or Lewis.
     
  12. IHaveAscreenName804

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    Well let me explain this to the people who might not know this. Golota looked good against a spent Riddick Bowe. Bowe was pretty done after this last bout with Evander Holyfield. He was almost knocked out with one punch by that shop worn version of Holyfield. Bowe would gain a lot of weight and then lose that weight quickly for years. According to neurologist when you lose weight weird really quick you lose fluid around around your brain. This is why Bowe was so damaged by the time he faced Golota.

    Either way a prime Foreman would probably stop Golota in a few rounds. If he punched Foreman low or bit him Foreman would of probably went insane on him. A older Foreman would of took a little bit longer to stop Golota but would of still stopped him.
     
  13. NoNeck

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    He didn't stop Savarese, Briggs, or that other guy around the time when this fight could've happened. He'd be fortunate to stop Golota.
     
  14. Eddie Ezzard

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    Schultz? Crawford Grimsley? There were a few low-ranking fighters that Foreman failed to kayo second time around but he still gets mythical punching power bestowed on that version of him.

    Perhaps 'ability to knock out' would be more accurate than 'punching power'. Old George probably had the requisite power to kayo pretty much everyone. It was having the agility and co-ordination to land it that eluded him. Still. These are important factors that are overlooked when people say 'Foreman smokes him in one, two rounds.' In reality, there were very few quality fighters that Old George blasted early yet, still, he often gets picked to do a number and land his bombs on good opponents in mythical match ups.

    Given the number of les than stellar chins that George failed to kayo - I'll chuck Alex Stewart into the mix, as well - to say George gets an early knockout isn't that much different to giving Golota mental stability.
     
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  15. NoNeck

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    Yeah, pretty much. 70s Foreman would obviously stop him.

    But if this happened in 97, I can't see really see why Golota would fall out of his comfort zone and implode. He'd just have to do a little bit better than Savarese to win. It's no sure thing because Golota was that erratic, but I'd favor him.