Floyd Mayweather reacts to Canelo Judge attempting to rob him

Bias or no bias against Canelo, we also have our own eyes and can see with them just perfectly fine, as the Almighty intended.

Floyd schooled Canelo.

 

Canelo "taught" Floyd?

Jesus, you actually believe that don't you? Unreal.

 

He taught him about feints. Canelo was feinting Floyd repeatedly in the first 3 rounds and getting Floyd to bite over and over again. Floyd was very cautious of Canelo's power and it caused him to react to a record number of feints. This is a teachable moment, something that Floyd learned and had to adjust to. If you study the footage, you'll see that it took a while for Floyd to adjust to it. Early on, Floyd was not prepared for the feints. Canelo also taught him how to fight on the ropes, which if you review Round 10 you'll see this for yourself. There were very specific lessons learned by Floyd in this fight. This was much more of a chess match than Floyd had ever experienced before, you look how deep in thought Floyd was, you listen to Floyd's comments after the match, it is abundantly clear that Floyd learned a lot from this fight.

 

Just nowhere near as much as Floyd beat Canelo up that night

Hence the loss

 

This never fails to make me chuckle

 

"Floyd weight drained Canelo" - Shadow111

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I think this is a good opportunity to share an article that was written on the day of the first Canelo GGG fight as a look back to Canelo's loss to Mayweather. It was by a boxing writer, Joe Rivera, of the sporting news. He gives it a re-watch 4 years later and goes through Canelo vs Mayweather round by round and gives his scoring which provides a very interesting view of this match. You really gotta put on your thinking cap here but if you pay attention you'll see that this article inadvertent reveals how close and hard to score this match was.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/box...s-analysis-wba-wbc/1s7cg4ckftviy1m3ghw0l90xn5

Now the first thing you'll notice is that he starts the article by stating that "a very young, very green Canelo Alvarez went toe-to-toe vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr." Countless times on here posters have dismissed the idea that Canelo was green or too young because he had 40 something fights. This was a way to act like Canelo was already in his prime, however Rivera claims that not only was Canelo young and green when he fought Floyd, but he goes further to say he was very young and very green. I think this is interesting just given how many times this "was he green" debate has occurred on here.

Then Rivera goes on to repeat most of the common arguments that people make about how this was just a schooling by Floyd, and even goes so far to say that Floyd fought a "damn near perfect fight". So Rivera's on board with it being a schooling and Floyd fighting a damn near perfect fight, which of course many people agree with. However Rivera makes it very clear that in his mind, Canelo was very young and very green, an idea that many of the people who also say it was such a schooling have vehemently objected to.

He cites Compubox about how the punch stats indicated it was "utter domination" and goes on to say that the majority decision was nonsensical and goes as far to call CJ Ross's card "one of the most embarrassing displays of judging that boxing has ever seen".

So he's made it very clear that he's fully on board with the idea that this was very one-sided. This is important later on. Lets get into his round by round scoring of the bout. Here's where it gets interesting.

Rivera proceeds to score each of the first 5 rounds to Mayweather, but in his description of the rounds he makes it very clear that each of these rounds are very close. Pay attention to these observations that he quotes as he describes what happened in these rounds. These quotes do not indicate clear, dominant rounds for Mayweather, they indicate quite the opposite that Mayweather was struggling. Now he's giving Mayweather these rounds but his observations indicate Mayweather was struggling.

Round 1 "It was the standard feeling-out round with Mayweather unable to find the distance on his punches, while Alvarez seemed pretty sharp defensively. Still, round goes to Mayweather for landing a few more shots and taking control of the round midway through."

Round 2 "Mayweather was a little bit less active with his feet in this round, as he was still trying to find the distance on his offense. Mayweather seems reluctant to throw, and his defense is still sharp."

Round 3 "A very close round, but it goes to Mayweather. Alvarez just isn't busy enough yet in the fight."

Round 4 "Things start to get chippy in this round, with Alvarez hitting Mayweather on the thigh coming out of a break. Replays showed that during that hold, Mayweather pressed his glove into Canelo's face, which Alvarez didn't seem too pleased with. Alvarez showed fight in this round, but it wasn't enough, not yet."

So through 4 rounds, it's very clear that Rivera is giving these rounds to Mayweather but only barely. The underlined quotes reveal that in each of these rounds Mayweather struggling, fouling and Alvarez is having some success.

Now in Round 5 he observes that "This was the round that Mayweather started to really showcase his ability." And he's absolutely right. Round 5 was a much better and clearer round for Mayweather than each fo the first 4 rounds. So he has Mayweather winning 5 rounds to 0 at this, but he makes it very clear that each of those first 4 rounds were very tight and not in any way dominant. This is important as we go into the later rounds. Out of those first 4 rounds, he is giving you specific observations and reasons that you could score some of those rounds for Alvarez, that these rounds were close, and not dominated by Mayweather.

Then we get to round 6 : "Alvarez isn't intimidated by Mayweather, hitting him with a shoulder coming out of a break (Alvarez wasn't pleased with Mayweather throwing some kidney shots in that same hold)."

So we have for the 2nd time alrady in the fight Mayweather is fouling Canelo in the clinch. Remember in the 4th round, Canelo retaliated with the thigh shot after Mayweather had Canelo in a headlock and cranked the neck. And now we have Mayweather giving Canelo a kidney shot while in a clinch.

So already we have two specific examples of Mayweather fighting dirty, once in the 4th round cranking the neck then again in the 6th round throwing a kidney shot while the two fighters are in a clinch. Canelo retaliated both times, this time with a shoulder barge, but it's important to point out that Mayweather was the one committing fouls here and fighting dirty.

"Canelo settling in a little more, letting his hands go a bit more, too. Alvarez trying to land some lefts. Alvarez's work in this round won it for him."

This was a another close round, so far, after 6 rounds, according to this writer we have 5 close rounds and won clear round for Mayweather, round 5. Thus far he's been very generous giving so many close rounds to Mayweather and having him ahead 5 rounds to 1 round after 6.

Then come Mayweather's best round, round 7, which he gives to Mayweather and also gives Mayweather round 8. So now he has Mayweather ahead 7 rounds to 1. But lets not forget how close he thought rounds 1-4 were, rounds that he gave to Mayweather.

Now we get to round 9 : "Alvarez worked hard in ths round and landed some good shots. Mayweather is a bit less active, probably knowing he has the fight in the bag by rounds. Mayweather did land a huge right, but Alvarez shook it off and finished the round. Good work from Alvarez."

Now this was a round, round 9, that I thought Mayweather won pretty clearly. But RIvera scores it to Canelo and recognizes that Canelo worked hard and deserved this round. Now, if you give Canelo this round 9, it changes a the math if you give any one of those first 4 rounds to Canelo, which according to Rivera himself, were very close.

Now on to round 10 : "Round goes to Alvarez, but it's really close."

So now he's given Alvarez two rounds in a row.

Round 11 was a clear Mayweather comeback round for me, so him giving them and pointing out Canelo's failures in this round make perfect sense.

Round 12 - "Alvarez was busier this round, and he won it."

"Looking at the fight again, it was an easy 116-112 win for Mayweather."

So Rivera while sticking with the idea that it was an easy, clear win for Mayweather, has decided that Canelo won a total of 4 rounds in this match, OK? That by itself is a lot more rounds than many people on this forum gave to Canelo. But here's the interesting part of that. That's 4 rounds that he gave to Canelo, while giving each of the first 4 rounds to Mayweather while observing how close and hard to score each of those first 4 rounds were.

 

Had he given 1 or 2 of those first 4 rounds to Canelo, we have an extremely close fight on the cards. And according to Rivera, one of those rounds (round 3) he stated plainly that this round was "very close", another one of those rounds (round 4) he observes that Canelo showed "a lot of fight" and Mayweather committed a foul in the clinch during that round. In round 1, he observes that Mayweather is unable to find the distance on his punches and that Canelo seemed pretty sharp defensively. And in round 2, he said that Mayweather was still trying to find the distance on his punches and was reluctant to throw.

So what this all adds up to is that Rivera has given Canelo 4 rounds here. And we have 4 other rounds, the first 4 rounds of the fight that he is making statements based on what happened in these rounds that Mayweather is struggling, that Canelo is looking sharp defensively, that Canelo's showing a lot of fight, etc.

So what this goes to show is that this is far from a domination. Even with giving Floyd the first 4 rounds, his observations tell us what really happened in these rounds, and show us how well Canelo was doing early on despite the fact that he scored each of these rounds to Mayweather, and then he ends up giving Canelo 4 other rounds later in the match. What does this tell you? Rivera while trying to toe the popular view of the fight that this was an easy, clear win for Mayweather, his scoring and summary of the rounds reveal something very different. Producing a final score of 116-112, his specific observations in 8 of the 12 rounds (rounds 1-4, 6, 9, 10, 12) make it very clear that in none of these rounds did Floyd dominate or win clearly.

So while he had it 8 rounds to 4 Mayweather, he observes that 4 of the rounds that he gave to Mayweather, the first 4 rounds were each very close. While he was impressed with Mayweather's performance, and tries to portray that in his final score, if you read his observations in the first 4 rounds and you add that to the 4 other rounds he gave to Canelo, it's impossible to come away from this and deny that this was a very close fight with 8 or so hard to score rounds.

 

its not worth the effort, they will just keep playing replays of the same few combos mayweather landed on canelo over and over and over again, completely disregarding the rest of the fight. That's all these idiots do is watch the high lights and make an opinion. You have to sit down and actually watch the fight round by round. Once you do that, you realize the fight was razor close. One of the best chess match type fights we've had in a long time. Very tactical. They both basically used every trick in their arsenal.

 

Maybe not, but do you find that article by Joe Rivera interesting? How his round by round observations tell a very different story from the overarching view that he's trying to portray? 4 years later he revisits it and goes back and re-scores the rounds, you can see the internal conflict he's having while going through the rounds. He knows that he believes that this was a schooling or Mayweather domination but his observations in 8 of those rounds tell a completely different story.

 

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"Floyd weight drained Canelo" - Shadow111

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"Canelo was landing easily on Floyd, giving him his hardest fight: - Shadow111

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He taught him how to buy judges. Cash es el rey.

 

You should see the faces of Jose Luis Castillo and Marcos Maidana after the judges robbed them of their wins against Fraud Mayweather.