AJ AND USYK granted extension for negotiations

I really hope there will be no rematch clause.

This Usyk's promoter trying too hard to make eddie like him.

He should be more aggressive and represent more of Usyks interest

 

Will seee values he higher Usyk or money there.

This most likely is main point.

BTW I think that this is reason why Eddie did not had scheduled Okolie vs Makabu or Briedis.
Both these does have belts and not likely will agree on 1 sided rematch clause for cheap. There it is here.

Vs Usyk he too most likely might dream to deal easily, like he maybe is old Povetkin for Whyte for example while even Usyk vs Bellew and Chisora had more ppvs than Whyte vs Povetkin I or Povetkin II fight.

 

The fact they needed an extension should tell you that they've played hardball. They've certainly not taken the first and probably not second offers from Matchroom. However you can be as bellicose as you wish in a negotiation, but it ultimately comes down to what cards you're holding.

Hearn controls the biggest earner in HW boxing, a man who could drop the WBO and still have twice as many titles as any other champion. Without a rematch clause there clearly won't be a fight. Joshua will vacate, probably facing Whyte or A N other. Hearn will be on every news channel spinning the story and although hardcore boxing fans like us will be tuning in to Usyk vs Joyce, it's unlikely that Usyk will see anything near what he could've done from an AJ bout and should he come through that he will still struggle to move the dial seriously without a large domestic PPV audience to fall back on.

They will push and push, they will get more than they otherwise would've done, but the final offer will not be massively different from the opening one and it will contain the sort of clauses that we've seen evidenced in the Ruiz JR rematch or those that Whyte declined to sign up to prior to Ruiz JR 1.

Note I'm not saying any of the above is 'fair' or that I approve of it, just that this is the way that it is.

 

Eddie has definitely asked for a REMATCH clause he always does.

He has probably also asked for rights on Usyk in a 3rd fight, if he wins the rematch too.

So lets see how far Usyk's team is prepared to move to make this fight happen.

When you have most the belts and can offer the big money, it is to be expected. But you do get the sense Eddie really screws all opponents of AJ big time.

Usyk needs to remember he has a powerful hand. If AJ ducks the fight he loses the WBO belt and can no longer fight for undisputed. It also gives the winner of the Fury-Wilder fight an out to avoid facing him next year....

 

Rematch clause is the sticking point in the negotiations.
Usyk should stick with no rematch clause and Mando WBO split. Let it go to purse bids I say. That's the only fair way.

 

Money not always is every thing in this life.
Usyk is not poor man and there.

Maybe exactly this is thing that Usyk will target to achieve: he does knows that Eddie will be mad if there will not be rematch clause and maybe for Usyk enough high win might be if A.J will vacate his WBO belt.

Why not?
Usyk will not be poor even if he had retired today and never had fought anyone.
Ofc not that huge body like eddie and still he definitely is not Glowacki or this short notice polish replacement.
Usyk net worth already looks that is not that bad.

 

So Hearn will risk AJ reputation with that move ? Is that the answer that will satisfy AJs legacy ? avoiding someone that he should fight anyway if he wants to be undisputed ?

 

Joshua is a big stiff idiot, but Usyk can't hurt him and I'm sure Joshua will land flush at some point.

 

I think eddie does not think like A.J fans here.
Otherwise he had immediately after Pulev fight started to negotioate and we already had saw fight like A.J vs Usyk as warm up fight before advertised by Eddie and Co mega fight vs Fury.

Nope.
A.J last opponent was Pulev.

 

Possible, but unlikely in my view. Aside from the big financial difference I think Usyk backs himself to beat AJ, which would be massive for earnings and legacy as well. Whereas if he wins a discarded belt against a guy with little following he'll still struggle to make a splash in the HW scene. He becomes high risk, low reward.

No I think all of this is the negotiation period and the fight will be announced. It's important however in negotiation to show your opponent that you have options sufficient to walk away from the deal if it's not acceptable. So Hearn floats the idea of vacating to show Team Usyk that he's not beholden to them and would take the hit on AJ's reputation if necessary.

 

I love the fans who insist Usyk should take the crap deal he’s being offered for this fight and agree to a rematch where he will get the same crap deal. I have less of a problem with Usyk taking a lower deal for this fight and making it up on the rematch if he wins. After all, at that point he will have the belts and be A Side. You can’t expect a guy to take a crap deal for the main fight, rematch and possible trilogy.

To those who say Usyk has enough money, he doesn’t have a 10th of what AJ has and what AJ will have if he wins and goes on to fight Fury (assuming AJ wins and a fury wins). This is next level greed. Let AJ make the lions share of the first fight but if he loses, it’s Usyks turn to make the bigger money in the rematch.

 

Well, maybe Usyk already is happy with his legacy in am and pro ranks and thinks that he is too old to become undisputed at HW.
BTW for me he does not looks in prime and this is not cos this is " it's heavy weight " mantra.

Maybe he thinks: to beat Joyce will be easier than A.J and vs more well known or less well known boxer for him doesn't matters anymore there. Maybe even not that much matters how much he will get from fight rather than to show eddie that he does have balls.

Big thing is that Usyk already is boxing promoter and for PR there might be more preferable even if he will not fight any more but that he showed that he will not dance under Eddie music here.
Then he might get more attention to him as prom. More trust from boxers and clients in europe.

If he wish establish himself as promoter, he should care only about things, like he does have balls and value his will over eddie to happen or nothing will happen there.

Life is different and doesn't looks that he is poor, in prime or young anymore there.

 

I see it the other way round. If he wins the WBO he becomes high reward. Boxers will be lining up to fight Usyk as its arguably an easier way to become world champion than beating Fury, Wilder or Joshua.

If he gets that WBO belt he can ride the heavyweight gravy train for a couple of years and then cash in on his own terms. If he fights Joshua and loses he's finished.