AJ AND USYK granted extension for negotiations

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  1. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    If they're screwing him on the purse they can't expect a rematch clause also. Usyk should dig in and force the diks to vacate.
     
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  2. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's a good sign the fight happens, you would normally only ask for extension (I'm assuming both parties would ask/agree to an extension) if a deal is close.

    That said, Hearn has said that he has worked with Team Usyk before, they have a great relationship and the deal should be fairly straightforward so it's a little off they need more time.. must be the rematch issue.

    Let's hope it's done, I prefer this to AJ vs Whyte or Ortiz.
     
  3. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    Wow! Maybe they think he needs the weight for punch resistance and additional muscle to not get pushed around? I still don’t know how a guy giving up so much weight, with limited punching power is going to keep an AJ size guy honest in the ring. He’s going to have to move a lot and that weight is going to wear him down late and make him slower from the start. It will be interesting but Usyk is never going to be a HW power puncher and will always need speed and stamina. Twenty pounds on top of his heaviest weight seems like a risky move.
     
  4. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sorry, if any one in this world is concerned about stuff that he should have more money than any one else, pro boxer's career is absolutely wrong choice for your life.

    Sport is very small niche in multimedia industry and pro boxing is small niche in sport niche nothing more in reality.
    It is below soccer and basketball and a lot of sports.
    A lot of channels long ago did not had cared anymore about broadcasting rights for boxing matches while still were concerned to pay for soccer, basketball etc broadcasting rights.

    Money is every thing you value, at all, do things needed for everyone or almost every one in this world, essential things or move to finances, investments, trading scene etc.

    There are xxxxxx ppl in this world far more rich than AJ and Eddie and only boxing fans are thinking that they are exclusive as rich ppl.
    No, they are not and NOR Eddie nor A.J are not richest ppl in U.K too for example.
    Never will be.

    Likes sport ? Okey.

    Are you so concerned will you have 10 m or 11 m or in difference, 100m or 110 m savings?
    Then boxing is wrong choice.
    A lot of boxers does knows this and did had earned not only with boxing.
    You can invest money, do business etc not only to earn in the ring.
     
  5. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't think anyone really thinks Usyk should take any crap deal, he should be fairly paid which means a record payday for him probably northward of £5 mill at the very least and probably closer to £10 mill. But he also shouldn't be over playing his hand and just squeezing the cash cow for the a payday if it means the fight doesn't happen, especially if that alienates Hearn who even without AJ has provided Usyk with his biggest paydays to date in PPV fights with Chisora and Bellew and who could provide him with further PPV fights even if he loses to AJ.

    It would be nice if the victor always got more in the rematch but let's be honest when you have a cash cow involved against a fighter with limited earning potential it's always going to favour the cash cow, we saw it with Mayweather, Pac, Oscar, Tyson etc. Boxing is a business first and Hearn wouldn't be looking after Joshua's best interests if he gave away the lions share of the purse in the rematch.
     
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  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I hope this fight gets made.
     
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I think the 217 he weighed against Chisora is the maximum he should come in at. AJ looks more fluid after shedding some of the excessive muscle but it's the reverse with Usyk. The agile, fluid and quicker Usyk who weighed about 211-212 in the WSB would cause AJ nightmares but I don't see how the additional bulk isn't going to be detrimental to his speed, stamina, agility and fluidity.
     
  8. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    There will definitely be a rematch clause. The sooner we accept this fact the better. No way is a champion with 3 belts going to fight a high risk fight like this without one, especially AJ who really seems to want an undisputed fight.

    Usyk IMO is worth no more than 25-30% of the purse, his name is no where near as big as Joshua's, and he holds no belts.
     
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  9. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The most funny thing that he will not be finished even if he had retired today.
    Usyk get not that bad deals and paychecks for CW boxer and does have what to do without fighting too.
    Usyk's legacy is at CW and in amateur ranks and no one is able to take this from him. Especially am achievements.

    For A.J ofc might be different, if Usyk will finish him then even Usyk's beating in rematch will not correct situation there.
    Eddie does knows this and he had saw A.J vs Ruiz I, II fights, etc fights and a lot of fights.

    Ohh, yeah, Usyk is easy target to beat and finish.
    It this was so easy, he long ago had been lined up for A.J to get beatup, Eddie had rushed to offer him fight when he moved up to HW.
    Why not? Easily beatable puny CW, good looking fight record, nice resume, let's gave for A.J easy night in the office, beautiful sales and addition to his resume.
     
  10. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why will there definitely be a rematch clause? They doesn't have to accept anything, this is why Hearn is stressed.

    That's the leverage of a mandatory... also if team Usyk play this right, AJ vacates, they get Joyce, better chance of winning.

    All being well.. Become WBO champion, go and fight winner of Fury Vs Wilder.. huge unification fight.


    WBO mandatory i believe get 20% so Team Usyk willing to go to purse bids pretty much prove Usyk isn't pricing himself out and it's a rematch clause problem.

    What will be happening now is Hearn will be offering more money to insert that rematch clause, also the rematch percentages could be a problem..

    If Usyk pulls off the upset then what then? AJ still gets the lions share in a rematch? Usyk gets 25%, 30%...

    Hearn has problems here and that's why the spin has been so heavy about governing bodies.
     
  11. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    I get why people feel Hearn is taking the **** with his rematch clauses and unequal second fight purse splits, but remember it's his job to get the best deal for his client, not to be fair to all concerned.

    As for Joyce, against an admittedly limited Dubois he looked like the definition of high risk low reward. I don't think Usyk could dent that very impressive chin and he'd be giving up considerable reach, height and weight to a guy who is more naturally suited to the weight. So I don't think the pressure is only on AJ's side to get this fight agreed. It makes sense for both parties, which is why I think a mutually acceptable deal will be found.

    I hope the fight will soon be announced and we can move on to discuss what should be a good contest.
     
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  12. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    If Usyk wins and there's a rematch, I think the champ should never get less than 50% personally. But regardless, even if Usyk gets 10%, it will be by far his biggest ever pay day.
     
  13. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hearn is so full of ****, talking about AJ should face Whyte and mandatories was the reason why that fight could not happen till now.

    AND now Usyk is getting in the way :fufu
     
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  14. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All managers/promoters want their fighter to fight Joshua, so that's no surprise.
    The question is, will Usyk defend the belt against Whyte with a rematch clause if he beats Joshua twice in a row?
     
  15. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    He'd do the same if he was matching Joshua with someone signed to Matchroom though.