Manny Pacquiao, Jean Pascal, Guillermo Jones, Alexander Povetkin. Substances making the fighter?

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  1. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Manny could have run a marathon after margarito's fight. He fought 12 rounds throwing 1100 punches. 1 punch every 2 seconds while margarito punching him in the face.

    And he was throwing in the last round with lightning speed anyway. And after all that he was completely fresh and ready to run a marathon if needed.

    One of the most obvious cases of cheating I have ever witnessed. But he didnt test positive. Amazing.

    EDIT: Just to have an idea. Those were the punches in Morales vs Barrera I, a legendary war.

    Total punches:
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    Thrown: 868
    Barrera Thrown: 618

    Well, pacquiao threw ~1100 (1069). And he was completely fresh after the figth. Not even a little bit tired, nothing. He could have fough another fight just after that. Disgusting display of whatever it is.

    Lance armstrong level of obviousness. But I repeat, pacquiao didnt test positve. So, I dont think that he should be in that list.
     
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  2. CG^

    CG^ Member Full Member

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    Every fighter dopes.
     
  3. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Another ******ed post. Pac was able to throw 900 punches against a legendary fighter in Morales in an all out war, and you're surprised he was able to throw 200 more on a sitting heavybag like Margarito and Clottey?

    Also, Floyd was caught with IV's, Canelo was caught with tainted meat, Holyfield was caught "Evan Fields", Pascal, Saunders, Miller, RJJ, Mosley and tons more were caught with some sort of illegal substance or another, JMM was caught hiring and trying to hide one of the foremost PED experts for athletes.

    Where is the smoking gun for Manny? What did he get caught of exactly? 70 fights, regular drug testing for those, VADA testing in his last 10 fights or so - why are all these other fighters getting caught but not Manny?

    And he's on drugs because one of the guys caught taking drugs and his daddy said it so.

    God you would not make a good lawyer, ******ed logic.
     
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  4. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    lol, ofc I'm surprised, idiot. 1100 punches a fight is NOT normal. Let alone to repeat it as often as you want to. That's NOT normal.

    And what's even less normal is to be completely OK after doing that. Fights where a fighter throws more than 1000 punches end with that fighter completely exhausted. Both fighters actually, because defending more than 1K punches is not free either. But pacquiao could have run a marathon after that fight. And you ask why am I surprised. Im surprised that you can type in a keyboard too, tbh, with that level of ******ation that you are showing.

    What a ******.

    And curiously, all those pacquiao 1K punches a fight ended for now reason when the rumors of peds were so loud that they could not be avoided, and all that "I'm afraid of the needles BS". Suddenly... pufff, no more 1K punches a fight.


    EDIT: Your comment: "he was able to throw 200 more on a sitting heavybag like Margarito and Clottey?"

    This comment is pure gold. As if 200 punches were "nothing", just "well man, 200 punches, you know". Lol. The "on a sitting havy bag" part is gold too. Man, go and punch 1100 punches in a heavybag in 12 rounds, ******. I tell you you will not be able to. You have not hit a heavybag in your freaking life.
     
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  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    So many claim Mayweather and Pacquiao only got the levels they did because of steroid use.

    I would argue that if those two are users and have hid it all this time, the likelihood is that everyone is a user.
     
  6. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Yes, especially mayweather, whose main asset was his ring IQ. With that steroid that increases the ring IQ... oh, wait!

    In mayweather vs maidana I, mayweather threw 1426 punches, same as pacquiao, an obvious cheater. Oh!! no!, wait!! I made a mistake. He thew 426 punches, not 1426. Oh... well... then probably you are saying no matter what, dude.
     
  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    This post doesn't really relate to the post you quoted tbh.
     
  8. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    All top level athletes are on the sauce.

    Some of you are seriously in cuckoo land.

    Do you still believe in Santa? Oops, did I ruin that for you?
     
  9. scandcb

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    Both Pacquiao and Mayweather were clearly doping.

    You would have to be naive to think otherwise.
     
  10. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    Wait - MVC! Is back?

    Assuming it’s just because Floyd has a ‘fight’ and then it will revert to the Canelo ‘IsaL’ account?
     
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  11. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yes 200 punches more is nothing when you’re throwing it against Clottey punching bag. What’s more impressive is he threw 900 vs Morales.

    paul Williams and margo routinely threw over 1000 punches a fight.
     
  12. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Margarito threw 1,700 punches against Clottey.

    Ray Padilla threw 1,600 punches.

    Completely shot Soto Karass threw 1,800 punches against Macias.

    Nathan Cleverly threw over 1,000 shots.

    Santa Cruz threw 1,300 punches against Rivera.

    But we ain't see you talk about these guys or Floyd with the same kind of anger and hate, who BTW has had ultra low T/E ratios, used illegal IVs, avoided VADA testing.

    Everyone knows the reason you give other fighters a free pass.
     
  13. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    I'm trying to get these morons to just come out and be honest about why they give free passes to most other fighters.

    The reason is obvious. I'm just hoping one of these trolls have the balls to be honest.
     
  14. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Mayweather used illegal IV fluids.

    Mayweather had ultra low T/E ratios consistent with doping in several fights.

    Mayweather ducked VADA testing and has a private arrangement with his own testing agency.

    Mayweather ducked the $5 million per positive test penalty requested by Team Pacquiao.

    Mayweather tossed Mosley around like a ragdoll.

    Mayweather never gets tired.

    Let's see if you can be consistent (of course you can't).
     
  15. lufcrazy

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    Margarito was the biggest cherry pick a P4P level fighter has made in years.

    He was basically training against a heavy bag.

    Pacquiao rightly got zero credit for facing such a god awful opponent.