Lennox Lewis: How I Beat Mike Tyson

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Vulnerable to big punchers ? But he beat every big puncher he faced and he literally BEAT Vitali Klitschko so i dont see how thats a 50/50 fight.

    He destroyed Morrison and Golota. He schooled Tua and toyed with Shannon Briggs after a rocky start, blew Michael Grant out of the water, sent Ruddock to the shadow relm and KO'd Bruno, he was not "vulnerable" to big punchers. He was vulnerable to overconfidence and looking past his opponents. He'd beat prime Holyfield but its close, Holyfield was past it but not that past it, Holyfield in his "prime" lost to Michael Moorer, in the run up to the Lewis fight he beat Michael Moorer in the rematch and whooped Mike Tyson twice

    Bowe vs Pre Emmanuel Steward Lewis is 50/50 but PRIME Lewis i see taking it, he already beat Bowe in the Olympics and Bowe didn't want to fight Lewis at a point. I see Holmes and Ali beat Lewis, those are actually the only 2 fighters i favor over Lewis, Foreman ehh probably not and Tyson imo is a 50/50 fight. But i really find Mike Tyson to be overrated
     
  2. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When I said he's vulnerable to big punchers, I meant if they land properly. Most of the guys you mentioned lacked the skill to do that, Tua being the prime example.
    Morrison had already contracted HIV by the point he fought Lewis. He also was a cocaine user, so he wasn't exactly at his best when they fought. I still favor Lewis, but I just wanted to point that out.
    Also, styles make fights, so what Holyfield did against Moorer is irrelevant. Based on what I saw in their 2nd fight, I favor Holyfield to beat Lewis. I also favor Tyson heavily.
    As for the Vitali fight, no, Lewis did not beat him, at least not in the proper sense, the fight wa simply stopped on cuts while Vitali was ahead on the cards.
     
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  3. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The only reason Bowe didn't fight Lewis in 1992-1993 is because his manager was a Class A suckpump and ruined the fight. He was the one who advised Bowe to do the insane act of throwing the belt in the garbage, all because Lewis wouldn't take relative pauper's purse offered to him by Newman. And btw, not sure you knew this, Lewis actually turned down a huge offer to fight Bowe right around the time of the third Holy fight...which is when Lewis had a pretty good chance of beating him.

    And I didn't see Bowe losing to Lewis in the Olympics, looks to me (and the announcers) as though that fight was stopped way too early. Bowe was dancing around, fine as wine, ready to fight more. That referee was an idiot...listen to the commentary on that "fight".

    Pre-Steward Lewis would have got his head knocked in by Bowe. Look at McCall did to him...McCall on his best day was NOWHERE NEAR 1992-1993 Bowe.

    Steward-era Lewis would have won a UD over ANY Bowe for sure imo
     
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  4. MarkusFlorez99

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    "If they land properly" well they didn't because Lewis could handle them. He also took multiple flush blows from Tua if you watch the fight and he took massive shots from Vitali who was coming off of a stoppage win against Larry Donald, the same Donald who went the distance with Riddick Bowe and had never been knocked down before then.

    Vitali was ahead on the scorecards but Lewis was getting better and better and his punch connect ratio was increasing as the fight went on comparedto the first 2 rounds that i scored for Vitali. He gave Vitali monstrous uppercut in round 6 and had the momentum 20 seconds right before the end of the 6th roughing him up on the inside when Vitali tried to clinch and even landed a big uppercut left hook combination on the inside.

    Thats why Lewis said "i got him now" in the corner after the 6th
     
  5. MarkusFlorez99

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    Well he beat Ruddock and Bruno who was also better than McCall. Lewis just underestimated him like he did Rahman, he beat both in the rematch
     
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  6. UFC2020

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    Prime Lewis was given a fight for his life by Ray Mercer and chinned by Rahman. No way will he have an easy time with a young Tyson. I saw enough signs in the actual fight that a younger fitter Tyson would easily get inside on any version of Lewis
     
  7. UFC2020

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    Lol Lewis was absolutely spent at the end of round 6. He was absolutely delighted that the fight was stopped as he had completely shot his load at that point
     
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    I have never seen Lewis being tested by one heck of a pure boxer puncher mover like Larry Holmes, he also does not have any late Kos.
     
  9. Clinton

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    I completely respect your opinion, but I never said an easy time.
     
  10. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Spent ? Even though it was Lewis who was getting the better of Vitali on the inside and finshed off the round better than any other round. Wait a minute aren't you that Wilder fanboy thinks Fury gets KO'd ? LOL
     
  11. George Crowcroft

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    Two landed plenty of big shots. Lewis took them all.
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  12. MarkusFlorez99

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    Didn't prime Mike Tyson got chinned by Buster Douglas ? Also Mike Tyson never fought Ray Mercer and got beat up by Holyfield whereas Mercer went the distance with him. And don't say Mike Tyson was well past it because he came out of prison and slaughtered Frank bruno quicker than he did before prison and ran through Brunce Seldon in 1 round
     
  13. UFC2020

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    Bruno in 1996 was finished and he already had a bad eye condition going into the fight. Tyson was not chinned by Douglas, it took at least 150 jabs, punches and combinations to finally deck him and he still got up to his feet by ten. Lewis blamed his struggle against Mercer on Mercer's relentless pressure fighting style, small ring.

    Tyson in the 2002 in many stages showed he could easily get inside Lewis and this was a Lewis very close to his prime if not his prime and it still took him 9 rounds to dispatch the worst version of Tyson he gave. Tyson at 100% has too many things for Lewis
     
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  14. UFC2020

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    Holyfield Tyson took bigger punches. Lewis Achilles heels for me where his suspect chin and a potential weakness against great prime boxer movers, he never had a late ko in his career and he didn't need to given his size, reach advantage. I believe a prime Ali, Tyson, Holmes will ask him very tough questions in many various dimensions
     
  15. UFC2020

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    Lewis shot his load but Vitaliti took his best shots and was still standing. Had the fight been allowed to continue, it was Vitali who had more in the tank to floor, stop a gassed out Lewis. That cut saved Lewis a loss.