Lennox Lewis: How I Beat Mike Tyson

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  1. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The fact that Tyson beat Bruno and Seldon does not mean he was as good as in the 80s. Anyone who saw a prime Tyson can spot that.
     
  2. UFC2020

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    I am not discounting Lewis greatness or his Hall of fame stature. But his resume gets blown out of proportion, his best opponents were either way past their primes or shot when he faced them. He got badly koed by inferior fighters. He went life an death with an avg opponent who a retired Holmes schooled, he was struggling badly against Bruno until he got that lucky left hook in.

    I never saw Lewis have to solve the puzzle against a super boxer mover and puncher like a Larry Holmes and I am not sure the Steward version of Lewis where he weighed in at 250 lbs will have the foot speed to deal with a Holmes light on his feet and firing in that jab, I predict Lewis getting frustrated in this fight and trying to adopt the Golata, Grant, Vitali bull rush approach and he will be shocked to see Holmes neutralizing his aggression and forcing him to actually fight, box into the later rounds where he will be spent.

    I am not convinced that Lewis was the complete fighter as he is projected to be
     
  3. MarkusFlorez99

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    LOL Bruno was not finished he had just beaten Mccall before that Mike Tyson rematch and KO'd Roldolfo Martin quicker than Bowe did. Also Hassim Rahman was a bigger puncher than Douglas.

    Give Holyfield his credit for dismantling Mike Tyson mentally and physically because he'd put the work in a prime Mike Tyson as well. Mercer fights totally differently from Tyson. Mercer could not only fight on the inside well as shown against Tommy Morrison, he also pressured with his jab. Mike Tyson was a midrange fighter who would unload at midrange and get on the inside only when his opponent is hurt. Him being an inside fighter is a misconception. He COULD fight on the inside but he didn't do it unless he had to and we saw how Douglas tagged Tyson with uppercuts and so did Ruddock. Lewis was the 2nd best SHW infighter behind Bowe
     
  4. UFC2020

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    I give Holyfield more credit for beating a better Tyson than the one Lewis faced. Holyfield is a different fighter than Lewis. Lewis is either getting chinned by a prime Tyson or outbeaten, out punched ala Mitch Green, Tucker assuming he has the chin to survive which I am not sure about.

    Tyson in his prime had a very good jab, he was a powerful counter puncher who used angles and made you pay for your mistakes
     
  5. MarkusFlorez99

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    He wasn't in his prime but neither was Holyfield. Prime Holyfield beats any version of Mike Tyson
     
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    Prime Holyfield I definitely give a great shot at troubling any version of Tyson. But a prime Lewis is getting stopped, kod or out punched, out hit, out pointed with numerous cuts, bruises
     
  7. MarkusFlorez99

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    That cut ? You mean those cuts ? It was 4 different cuts that Lewis carved in Vitali's face no luck there.

    Lewis was still standing and finished the 6th round better than Vitali did. Both slowed down but it was Lewis who had the momentum at the end if the fight. Emmanuel Steward was telling Lewis to attack Vitali in the 7th and throw more overhand rights to punish his face even further. I wish it had happened
     
  8. White Bomber

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    No, he does not, not even with all his steroid abuse. Holyfield might not have been in his prime age wise, but his skillset was still intact, Tyson's wasn't, that's what made the difference.
    I reckon the toughest opponent a prime Tyson faces is Liston, then come Foreman, the Klitschkos and Lewis
     
  9. MarkusFlorez99

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    Based on what ? Rahman ? Lewis didnt take him seriously and paid for it first time. He layed Rahman out in the immediate rematch to shut down any doubts
     
  10. MarkusFlorez99

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    Then lets bump the thread again
     
  11. UFC2020

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    Emmanuel Steward could have told Lewis what he wanted. Lewis didn't have the gas after the sixth round whereas Vitali had recovered and raring to go
     
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    The fact he had to take someone like Rahman seriously to beat him and his celebration after the rematch as if he beat a George Foreman, Larry Holmes speaks for itself.

    His defeat to Rahman had nothing to do with taking seriously or not seriously, he got hit in the face, his Achilles heels, no sucker punch, he got floored. The likes of Holyfield, Tyson, Holmes, Foreman have taken plenty of punches even when they didn't see them and they still took them and carried on. No excuses.

    Given that Lewis has had two such episodes in his career, you cannot blame Tyson fans for not giving his chin, durability the benefit of the doubt in a match against a prime Tyson
     
  13. atr

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    It should have been titled "how I beat Tyson... 16 years after he became world champion"

    Equivalent of beating Ali in '79?
     
  14. MarkusFlorez99

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    He didn't have the gas after the 6th ? How would you know ? He literally finished the 6th round off better than Vitali did and was outworking Vitali on the inside wheras Vitali was the one that kept trying to hold on. Evidence points the opposite direction of what ever the hell you're trying to say lmao.

    Did you even watch the full fight ? Or just the highlights like a casual
     
  15. MarkusFlorez99

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    Because he fixed his mistake and flatlined Rahman in an immediate rematch. Winning an immediate rematch doesn't happen a lot so I'd understand why he was happy. If Mike Tyson beat Holyfield in a rematch like Lewis beat Rahman in the rematch then you'd have a point but he didn't

    Funny how you're saying "no excuses" but then you just simply ignore when Mike Tyson got whooped by Holyfield twice and got beat down by Douglas. You also skipped over when i said Mike Tyson was still elite level coming after prison after he destroyed Frank Bruno. Given that Tyson had 3 such losses in his career i wouldn't blame Lewis fans at all if they favored him over Mike Tyson
     
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