Floyd Mayweather: When Canelo fought me, he was in his prime, I was an old man. I wasn't in my prime

Whatever Marquez was taking could have kept him prime until he was 50.

 

You say I'm trying to discredit the win I'm saying you're trying to exaggerate the win. I accept that Floyd won, I have no problem giving Floyd a fair amount of credit for that win. But you're going overboard with it, acting like it was wider than it was, acting like Floyd was faded and an old man, acting like Canelo was already in his prime, ignoring the catchweight, acting like this result means that any verson of Floyd ever always easily beats any version of Canelo lol.

You see the problem? I'm happy to give Floyd credit for a close hard fought win by a very experienced, seasoned, near prime, P4P #1 Floyd beating a young green drained version of Canelo who still fought him close. You're not willing to admit it was close or accurately reflect how close to each fighter's true peak they were then. That's my only issue here Pimp. I'm very willing to give Floyd his credit for that win, but you're going waaaaay overboard as far as how close it was and what that win means as it relates to how other versions of Floyd would do vs current Canelo who 8 years later is now at his peak.

We don't know how long Canelo will maintain his peak or stay in his prime. In 5 years if he's still fighting I doubt he'll still be at his peak anymore but he has a chance to still be in or near his prime if he stays in the gym like Floyd did and stretches out his prime for as long as can until he retires. We'll see, all I'm saying is that Floyd was not the faded, lackluster old man you or Floyd himself says he was nor did he dominate or easily beat that version of Canelo as you say he did.

Canelo landed a lot of good shots on that version of Floyd and more than half the rounds were very close. Don't get me wrong, Floyd won, I'm not arguing that Canelo did enough to win, you know that. I'm just saying Canelo fought him tough that night. And Floyd was doing a lot of holding, fouling, kidney shoting, he got him in a head lock and cranked his neck in the 4th round. Floyd was biting on feints, Canelo was landing body shots, Canelo was landing clean hooks throughout the match.

Be proud of that win, brag about it if you want, but you should also give Canelo credit for how well he fought Floyd, even at such a young age. Because you know full well that I give GGG fans a hard time about Canelo beating GGG, I made it clear I thought he won the first fight, I know you had it a draw which is fine, but I also give GGG credit and always make it clear that GGG took Canelo into deep waters both times and I give GGG credit and I respect his fans who said GGG won.

 

If I remember rightly Canelo even in his Floyd, Trout years was walking round at close to 180 lbs.. imagine fighting at 152lbs if you've a frame like that .. that's nearly 40lbs above weigh in.. Floyd wouldn't even meet Canelo at his designated weight at the time ..154.. y'all think he'd meet him at 160/68?! No. Y'all could call Canelo weight bullying back then but it went beyond that & became detrimental to him in this case imo.. because as we saw when matured & he settled into his more natural weights his power increased. Back then he wasn't as strong. Lopez does it also, drains down to LW (I deduce that he walks around at over 160lbs) but he's not stupid enough to take it to that level or meet at catchweights et cetera

 

This UFC guy is a comedian. He's clearly in the wrong sport. That guy shoud stick to MMA. Boxing is obviously not his sport lol.

 

I've watched it again recently and it's certainly not the shut out some of the Floyd fans portray, Floyd won undoubtedly but Canelo had his moments

 

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You can clearly see in this fight that Canelo neither has the power or the upperbody movement and ring generalship that he has today… That's obvious. Don't get me wrong, at the smaller weights Floyd would probably have always beaten him but not at 160 or above.. some fights make u a better fighter, look at a younger Floyd v JLC, fights like that you grow from, Castillo showed Floyd you don't get it all your own way at some point.. also , the fact that men like Maidana were seemingly more effective against Floyd back then than Canelo clearly demonstrates to me that Canelo wasn't the fighter we see today.

 

Didn't read.



"Floyd weight drained Canelo" - Shadow111

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"Canelo really beat Floyd up good that night" - Shadow111

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"Canelo was landing easily on Floyd, giving him his hardest fight: - Shadow111

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Lies, Mayweather was offered 8mil for Margo fight. He made the same amount against Baldomir. Paul WIlliams also didn't stay at WW long and has repeatedly said Mayweather didn't duck him. Paul has siad many times the fight would have eventually happened as he was building his name, but the car accident happened. So cut it out! Here is a vid, just start listening @ 4:00 mark when asked about fighting Mayweather.

(6) Paul Williams teaches U How 2 Beat Errol Spence & Floyd Mayweather & Al Haymon being Man of His Word - YouTube

 

The Baldomir fight was a disaster. They stunk the place out, ringside guests walked out by the 8th round. Margarito would have been more than Floyd wanted even though the PPV buys would have been way higher.
Floyd was scared silly of Antonio Margarito I'm sure youve seen the videos where Marg walked up to Floyd to ask him "why wont you fight me"? Floyd embarrassed himself he was terrified LOL
Dont say it was the title Floyd went for He'd changed his name to MONEY & thats all he was interested in not titles. He proved to be a coward that day lol

 

ah yes, i remember it well.
this was right after margarito had just put the boxing world on notice by beating the great kermit cintron...

 

Didn't he start going by "Money Mayweather" during the De La Hoya buildup?

 

Floyd was old.

Canelo was young.

Floyd was obviously not at his physical peak, though still getting elite victories.

Canelo was in his physical prime, though got most of his best victories after.

That's it. Done. Let's let the thread flush down the toilet a few pages rather than seeing this dumb thread every day up at the top.

 

Canelo not using the weight as an excuse and saying he felt good ≠ Canelo wasn't weight drained.

Bad translations. Floyd confirmed in a video with Fight Hype that his thigh and elbow was very sore after the match, which he said he was getting treatment for the next day.

I didn't say he was landing "easily" on Floyd, that's a misquote. 22% and 31% in power punches is a higher % than Cotto or Guerrero did vs Mayweather. And is a higher % than Pacquiao landed on Mayweather 2 years later.

Lets check punch stats vs Floyd -
Overall punches:
Canelo 22%
Cotto 21%
Pacquiao 19%
Guerrero 19%

Power punches:
Canelo 31%
Guerrero 28%
Pacquiao 27%
Cotto 23%

 

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1:00 "I still think since I have took no abuse in the sport, my legs are still young I still have spring I still have bounce in the later rounds"

 

There's no way you can argue that Canelo was in his physical prime when he fought Mayweather. Yes he was young but being young doesn't mean you're in your physical prime. Being young, he was still moving up towards his physical peak. He wasn't anywhere near his physical prime at that time. Many people had been saying for years that Canelo was killing his body having to make 154 and that he was a naturally bigger man and should have been fighting north of 154. He only moved into his physical prime when he moved up to 160 and now 168 because he no longer has to kill himself to make 154. Vs Floyd he had to drain down to 152, that was a major strain on his body, he was already cutting a lot of weight to make 154. 152 at that time was an extreme weight cut for him.