Is Povetkin a future HOFer?

On your cons:

- Charles Martin "won" a vacant world title. Had Povetkin beat a badly compromised Glazkov, he wouldn't have been any more worthy than he is.
- If a signature win is a win against a legit top 3 heavyweight, this is a fair criticism. But for much of his career, he, Vitali and Wlad were the top 3! He struggled against skilled and athletic big men but so did Haye, Holyfield and Tyson. 6'5+, 240+ lbs, skilled and athletic didn't exist pre-90's, which made it a lot easier for someone 6'2 and 220 lbs to be a HW champion.
- The meldonium situation was highly suspect as has been mentioned in this thread. It was obvious that it was a means to protect Wilder as America hadn't had a highly respected heavyweight champion for 20-25 years.

 

No idea why you are trying to throw ethnicity into this. Povetkin was never a champion and I'm not willing to ignore that. I don't think Wilder or Fury are hall of famers at this point either

 

The "HOF" is determined by the bigwigs of American boxing and they are biased in favour of their fighters, past and present, who tend to be of three-quarters African ancestry. They weren't happy when post-Soviet Eastern Europeans started to outcompete their fighters, particularly their conquest of the heavyweight division, which America had owned since the 19th century. This obviously counts against Povetkin.

 

no

 

No, who did Povetkin beat really? His WBA belt isn't even the real WBA belt. Got a gifted decision over huck, busted for PEDs a couple of time. No, no, and no. Hell, John Ruiz or Chagaev is more deserving than this guy.

 

Eh, he beat a prime Chagaev by 4 rounds on all three cards. Yes, yes and yes.

 

Prime Chagaev? The one who got whupped by Wlad in 9 rounds, the one who struggled with Hepatitis A his whole career? No, no, and no. I bring up John Ruiz for a reason, he is generally considered one of the worst heavyweight champs of all time and he did the follwowing:
1. 2-time WBA champ (the real one, not regular bull****).
2. Go 1-1-1 with Holyfield, which 10x more impressive than anything Povetkin did.
3. Beat 3 heavyweight champ (Holy, Tucker, Rahman), and a few top contender.
John Ruiz will never got into Canatosta, how do you think Povetkin got any chance at all. And Ruiz didn't got caught juicing.

 

If he will sue you, you will feel happy of course.

 

I never mentioned Ruiz. You brought up Chagaev as being more hof worthy when he was well beaten by Povetkin a decade ago so by any definition your FOS. Ruiz is another argument, for me Povetkin mid10s was better but that's pure conjecture and irrelevant to the point I was making. Capiche?

 

I'd say no, but he was a great fighter. The whole steroids thing doesn't bother me, he has obvious talent.

 

Danny William beat Mike Tyson, is he HOF worthy? Chagaev beat Valuev and Ruiz, won the real version of WBA belt, he is better than Povetkin. Also, Povekin beat Byrd after he was destroyed in 5 rounds by Wlad, beat Chagaev after he was destroyed in 9 rounds by...Wlad. Sensing something here, pal?

 

The most funny that he never had been detected positive for steroids or clen.
This is what this is here.

Murcians might legally use L carnitine, not meldonium for example.
Both are not roids.

Pov also never had looked really juiced, with body weight 222-225-228 lbs he still looked like with higher fat percentage than large bunch with western cash cows.

While yeah, looks that he maybe had waited till some opponents will be a bit older.
Yeah, the same Wlad too btw.

 

Only a hater would dismiss Povetkin out of hand. A reasonable argument could be made for and against. However people that say no way, etc etc show more about themselves than they do the fighter’s career.
He fought at an extremely high level with consistency for a long time.

 

Vitaly Klitschko is in HOF, his brother will follow soon, what ex-Soviet bloc boxer do you think has been shafted by murica when come into HOF?

 

I a bit amused by flow charts like ex soviet etc.
Soviet Union does not exists since 1992 th.
A lot of so called former Soviet Block countries now are NATO countries and still they are for ppl like with stigma, also funny because a lot of these countries are more christian by religion.
Yeah, Ukraine is not NATO country and still it is capitalistic country with domination in religion choice christian religion.
Relatively close to Roman chatolic.

And in forums they still might be appreciated like bad wolf Ivan Drago from Rocky film.
They are not such kind of your enemies like in nice films.