Floyd Mayweather: When Canelo fought me, he was in his prime, I was an old man. I wasn't in my prime

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  1. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    So, in your head, the fighter that was in the ring claimed that the weight wasn't an issue at all. But, because he lost, it must have been the issue?

    Because you want to lie, again, here's a direct quote, even with a timestamp - just because I know you're the king of FACTZ :wanker

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    Yes, you did you moron. I will go back and get the exact response from the previous posting.
    Weird, I don't remember asking about Pacquiao or Cottos performances... but here we are. Once again, you deflect, deflect, deflect.

    Insecure wee fella.
     
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  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If he said "yes, the weight was an issue", then it would have come across as him making excuses or blaming the loss on the weight. Canelo didn't take that opportunity to use the weight as an excuse because he didn't want to make excuses. Clearly it was a strain on him to make the weight, but he was professional about it, he made the weight, didn't complain and didn't make excuses about it after the fight. Comprende?
    Bro you're the one lying here lol.

    He was asked : "Did his speed take you out of your fight plan? If so how did he do that?"

    Canelo responded by saying "No". You left that part out.

    You left out the first part of what the translator said. He said "No, not at all not at all." THEN he said:

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    Waiting for it. Waiting for you to go back and find the exact response then realize that you misquoted me. This should be humorous.
    Well you cited a 22% connect % in your response to Canelo being Floyd's hardest fight. What I said was it was "Floyd's closest fight in years". So you're not only misquoting me, but you're failing to realize that 22% vs Floyd was a better % than any of his prior opponents lol. 22% was even higher than DLH's connect % which was 21% when he fought Floyd.

    So you're citing 22% as though that proves that it was a cakewalk for Floyd because it was such a low %. But when you look at the connect %s of Floyd's previous opponents, you can see that 22% was actually a higher connect % than Cotto, Guerrero, De La Hoya, Pacquiao, Marquez and Mosley. Again, these are the connect %s of Floyd's prior opponents vs him, compared to Canelo.

    Canelo 22%
    De La Hoya 21%
    Cotto 21%
    Mosley 20%
    Guerrero 19%
    Marquez 12%

    See how idiotic you look by posting that 22%. 22% was higher than Mayweather's previous opponents which only supports my argument.

    Pacquiao 2 years later only got 19% vs Floyd. So Canelo's 22% was also higher than Pacquiao's % vs Mayweather.
     
  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    @kiwi_boxer and just to put the icing on the cake, when I said Bad translation it's because what Canelo said en esapñol didn't translate to what the translator said. The translator said :

    "No, not at all, not at all. I had my game plan, and I kept trying to work on my game plan. And he was very good, he took me out of it, and we just didn't have an answer for it"

    Canelo never said those exact words. For example, "And he was very good" translates to "Y fue muy bueno". Canelo never said "Y fue muy bueno." "we just didn't have an answer for it" translates to "Nosotras simplemente no teníamos una respuesta para ello". Canelo didn't say that.

    The translator is simply paraphrasing what Canelo said in is own words. That's what I mean by bad translation. Here's what Canelo actually said word for word with direct spanish to english translations so dumb nittwits like you know what he actually said.

    "No, yo estaba haciendo mi plan de trabajo" = "No, I was making my plan work"

    "Simplemente, el es otras cosas y no me da hacer del mis plan de trabajo mi como tener pensado" = "Simply, it is other things that did not make my plan work as I have thought."

    "Y simplemente, no supimos como otra estar eso." = "And simply, we did not know how to be otherwise."

    So Canelo didn't say what the translator said he said, only an inaccurate paraphrase of what he said. Canelo never said "he was very good" or that Mayweather "took him out of his game" and he strongly rejected the idea that Mayweather's speed took him out of his gameplan which was asked with an emphatic "No".
     
  4. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    Fantastic. Fell for the trap, once again.

    Didn’t read.

    :SimpHomer:
     
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  5. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    I highly doubt professional journalists have typed as much about Canelo as Shadow

    He lost to Floyd, thats it
    Pretty easy night for Floyd

    Two lines sums it up nice
     
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  6. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thing is, Canelo was NOT in his prime. Not at age 22-23. I don't know what people here believe prime means, but it refers to one's physical prime. Their bod is as good as it'll get. Canelo was NOT done developing when he fought Floyd.
     
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  7. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    Anyone who is arguing different is doing it for fanboy reasons. Pretending opinions matter more than facts.
     
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  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    What we do know is that at 36 PBF was done developing when he fought Canelo in fact he was faded and coming down. I'd rather be 23 than 36 in a boxing ring you're closer to your prime or in your prime at that age. A 23 year old Usain Bolt gaps a 36 year old Usain Bolt. A 23 year old RJJ destroys a 36 year old RJJ. A 23 year old Michael Phelps swims laps around a 36 year old Michael Phelps. We just saw this with Loma and Lopez, except Lopez was even younger than Canelo was when he fought Loma and Loma was even younger than PBF was when he fought Canelo. I didn't hear anything about Lopez being too young and not prime in that fight. I just heard he wasn't good enough and would be exposed by Loma.
     
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  9. rhin0z>

    rhin0z> Boxing Addict Full Member

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    18-25 a male is in their physical prime. any growth after that is going to be abnormal enhancement. athlete head growing (hello paciqoa, barry bonds, mark mcquire), in human endurance( hello lance armstrong), in human strength (hello same suspects)

    Now if you are saying canelo is better physically now at at age 30 than at age 25. That is a indictment.

    Most major athletes around this stage start reeling it in and retire. Jordan age 32, hagler age 34,walter payton age 34.
     
  10. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This 'Whataboutism" crap mans nothing to me. I'm simply talking about Canelo's age and prime. Go jerk off to floyd w/ someone else.
     
  11. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm just talking about Canelo when he fought Floyd at age 22-23. What he was at age 25 to 30... not my post.
     
  12. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    So then explain why Floyd was so terrified when Tony calmly walked up to him & asked " Why wont you fight me" ?? You only have to watch any one of the videos showing this encounter to clearly see Floyd was afraid of Tony as his goons had wandered off & he was alone. Look at his eyes, listen to him babble like Daffy Duck , he was scared stiff. Then the real embarrassment came. Who did Floyd fight after the Baldy debacle ?? the very man Baldy had beaten to get the title ROFLMAO Still no Margarito
    Say what you want Floyd proved he was just another coward certainly not TBE he claimed ROFLMAO :monoloco: Log Off youre only embarrassing yourself like your hero
     
  13. rhin0z>

    rhin0z> Boxing Addict Full Member

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    guy shows up with cement and brass knuckles in his glove say he wants to fight. I guess you agree to fight him right?
     
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  14. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    That became the perfect excuse for that cowardly Mayweather, Oscar, & Quitto's too why he got his Diva ass kicked by a FIGHTER!! I wouldnt be surprised a bit if those 3 cowards werent behind railroading that tarnished the good name & career of Antonio Margarito. There has never been one person who could publically prove Tony EVER did anything wrong. Not Pinnochio Richardson the CSAC or anyone else. All their accusations stated " They SUSPECTED he may have tried to load his gloves" so they banned him for 2 years while the so called heroes dodged the bullet
    Those cowards KNEW they couldnt beat Tony in the ring. Their excuses are just as ludicrous & childish as your post
    Go support real FIGHTERs! not Cowardly Divas
     
  15. rhin0z>

    rhin0z> Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sir, a investigation was done, evidence and witnesses testified. that low life had his day in court and was found guilty. case closed. and without those lucky horse shoes in his gloves he got his face kicked in.