Can a puncher be Taught or are they Born?

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  1. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very well thought out riposte, and one which makes perfect sense. keep well.
     
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  2. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    For those saying punchers can be taught...

    How come Naoya hits 100X harder than Takuma? Same trainer...
     
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  3. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Huge differences in power between family members is evidence against power being inborn.

    Unless it comes from something that happens in the womb. I wonder if their mother could tell us who kicked more/harder, she could settle the debate for us.

    Same trainer doesn't mean too much, every teacher will have their A students and C students.
     
  4. boxingjunky

    boxingjunky Member Full Member

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    I'm curious to see if Tyson Fury continues to have this new knock out power that the Kronk gym has given him.
     
  5. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    This is true, but come on, one is the hardest puncher in the sport and the other is one of the softest hitters.

    :lol:
     
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  6. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Name some made
     
  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Manny Pacquiao KO 54.93%

    His father Bobby Pacquiao KO 32.65%

    And Manny has fought at a much higher level and for a lot longer than Bobby
     
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  8. boxingjunky

    boxingjunky Member Full Member

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    I've been trying to get someone to answer that question for the last 2 pages and the only name I got was Tommy Hearns, but they had to go back to the amateurs to show the transition.
     
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  9. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Tommy Hearns
     
  10. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Natural power is just that you can refine it
     
  11. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cause Takuma is a bad student.
     
  12. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: Lolllllllllll
     
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  13. HellSpawn86

    HellSpawn86 "My heart goes out to you!" Full Member

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    A lot of also depends on a boxers strategy. Some boxers are punching to just touch their opponent, if a boxer unloads on every punch they telegraph their punches, miss shots and get tired faster. It usually doesn't take a lot of power to knock out another fighter, a well timed punch a boxer doesn't see can be more effective than a full power shot the opponent sees coming and can brace for or roll with. To me skill and strategy are more important factors when it comes to punching power and KOs.
     
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  14. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Every one can get a bit better at generating force (speed+Weight) but its harder to increase power transition thru your bones.

    Same goes for faster reaction time etc.

    Everyone are born differently.

    Foreman is a perfect example of this.
     
  15. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think there's 3 components to being a puncher.

    1 - Power
    2 - Set up
    3 - Delivery

    Power means ability to generate force. This means physical ability in terms of strength, power, speed, bone density as well as technique which is required to deliver that power, without technique power cannot be delivered efficiently . How much power you are able to generate is limited by your physical ability you can only get so strong or so fast based upon your genetics and your technique is limited by your ability to learn and execute said technique.

    Set up means, how does a fighter set his opponent up to land his power shots. Some fighters just rely you speed and power and go at guys as hard and as fast as they can relying only on their physical prowess. But other fighters are smarter and set up traps to counter or either by moving fighters into dangerous positions or tricking them into focusing elsewhere so they don't see the KO punch coming.

    Delivery means basically timing. You can have Foreman like power, set them up for a shot they won't see coming but if your timing is off and you miss that split second when to land the result maybe vastly different, from clocking your opponent cold to them rolling away from a shot.

    Punchers that are born are naturally, explosive, fast and probably just have a natural kinesiological grasp of the movements that help generate that power, meaning, the timing from toe to fist when punching so their is no break in the chain of power delivery. Usually you can see in guys with little power a flaw in their technique, maybe they don't use their legs, maybe they don't rotate their hips, maybe they don't use their shoulders etc. Then you have guys who can one moment hurt a guy with one shot but another does almost nothing and those guys struggle with the set up, so often their opponents are ready to take their shot it's only when they occasionally catch a guy unexpectedly that their power is revealed.