9-9 & 10-10 rounds

10-10 rounds are somewhat acceptable, although I avoid using them. There's no such thing as a 9-9 round. It's in the name "ten point must". You have to give someone ten points. If someone was dropped but otherwise dominated, you score it 10-9, not 10-8. A judge's card has an extra column for point deductions, and is taken off the final score, not that particular round. So that stays a 10-9.

 

I don't use 9-9 because it's wrong - unless the ref deducts a point.

10 point MUST...

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If fighter B is knocked down but dominates fighter A in the round otherwise, I score it 10-10. If the round is even, except for the knockdown, I score it 10-9 for Fighter A.

 

Absolutely not. There's always a winner of a round.

 

I don't understand why some people say that a fighter who scores a knockdown automatically wins the round 10-8.

It totally ignores everything else that happened in the round.
For example, I think the 12th round of Wilder vs Fury should have been scored 10-9 to Wilder because Fury fought back well after the knockdown.

What if the guy that got knocked down was beating his opponent up and had him on the verge of being stopped but in the last seconds of the round, gets caught, loses his balance and his gloves briefly touch the canvas?

Has he just lost the round 10-8??? That sounds absolutely crazy.

Is there any guidance/rulings on this?

 

So, in your opinion, there's NEVER an even round???

EVER????

 

Yes to 10-10 rounds. A round can be even.

No to 9-9 for even rounds.

9-9 rounds are when someone wins the round, but the referee tells the officials to take a point away from the guy who won the round.

So the judges literally score it 10-9, then deduct on point from the 10 side of the card. That's the only time you get 9-9.

 

Yeah, it was covered in the judging course I went on. It's not massively detailed due to the nature of fights and how unique each round can be. Hard to be all encompassing when it covers so many situations.

Anywho, the rule is that the person who went down loses a point. This means they can't win the round, because they can't have a ten points, so the other fighter has to have ten points - meaning they win the round unless they're dropped or stopped. Most judges give them the round immediately off the basis of the KD, hence why it's a 10-8. This isn't mandatory, but it very common and encouraged. That way, it takes a harder push from the downed fighter to close the point gap.

There's a school of thought that thinks a judge can overrule the referee's decision, but they can't. If the referee rules it a KD, and the time keeper picks up the count, they have to lose the round. Doesn't have to be 10-8, but it does have to be a lost round. Unless they score a KD of their own, in which case, it's the judges decision again.

 

Nope.

 

He didn't fight back that well. (LOL)

That was a hard knockdown. Fury's lucky the fight wasn't stopped when he was on his back staring at the ceiling.

It's not like Fury was dominating the round and Wilder clipped him and Fury seemingly lost his balance, fell, laughed and immediately jumped up saying no knockdown. He was flattened hard.

People were shocked Fury got up. That was the definition of a 10-8 round. He had to walk around for another six or seven seconds to prove to the ref he was okay.

I often view rounds where a guy who is clearly winning a round and then gets dropped by a flash knockdown and immediately jumps up and argues the call as a 10-9 round for the person scoring the knockdown. The guy who went down clearly wasn't hurt that bad. But knockdowns matter in pro boxing.

 

I score rounds 10-10 quite often. In a fight were both boxers for example are overly cautious and landing nothing cleanly how can you justify a 10-9 round ?? Or if it's a toe to toe war with neither guy taking a backwards step and an equal amount of punches landed could also justify 10-10.

 

Yeah, I agree. 10-10 rounds are acceptable in my opinion, in rounds like the first of this fight:

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I don't know how anyone can't at some point score a 10-10, if you can't split the fighters what else can you do? Just spin a coin? They should be rare, but they are legit and justifiable...

 

10-10 rounds used to be far more common than they are today. Which is a shame because we need more even rounds. Mandatory 10-9 rounds reward passiveness. When a judge scores 10-10 rounds regularly he encourages the fighter to go and solidly win the round.

How many times have we seen very close fights end up scored 119-109 because both were fighting negatively and the judge just kept giving one guy all the close rounds?