Duran V Tony Ayala Jr - 1982?

Lmao!!!! How many yrs have you been waiting to write that?

 

Totally agree, Duran would hammer him to a stoppage, Ayala was way overrated. It's not close in any department.

 

Ayala cradled that left arm at his waist. minimal head movement as well. Once he moved up in class in that division, the ballgame is all over. Duran would have a picnic landing that right hand over the left hand of Ayala. And all Tony will do is try slugging his way out of things.

 

The trouble in a nutshell is this - the angrier and wilder Ayala gets the more Duran will turn it against him.

 

Ayala would try to intimidate Duran at the press conference and weigh in..It would probably wake Duran up if anything and get him to get razor sharp. Roberto was too smart, too good defensively.
Duran TKO 5th

 

excellent all. After the first rd and being on the floor from a Duran right hand and tasting Roberto's left hook to the liver while Duran attacks with a relentless ferocity, Ayala will understand believe he had a BIG mouth, that there is only 1 Roberto Duran and he himself is not it and the 1st seeds of quitting will enter his mind.

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I can see him quitting also. Or doing something stupid to get DQ'ed.

 

The original 'Baby Bull" would get gored savagely by Mano's de Piedra .
Ayala's competition was extremely suspect prior to his 1st incarceration.
While he did what he was supposed to do against that type of competition
theirs no one he fought that would make one highlight their name as a
good or very good win.
Duran could make Ayala say "No Mas". Especially when considering his
personality type usually hides self doubt. Duran would see through the
charade of false bad ass, and bully. Shake him like a pit bull does a kitten.
Duran wins this convincingly and easier than imagined.

 

Duran by late round stoppage. Ayala hadn't fought anyone even remotely close to Duran's level. I think Ayala takes some career changing damage in this one, much like Moore.

 

Davey Moore had better caliber opponents and more proven wins. I like Kalule, Benitez and Guiden wins
over anything Ayala did.

 

Ayala and Duran were supposed to fight. But Ayala was a monster, raped and nearly killed a woman and was sent to prison for decades.

Duran got the shot at Moore that Ayala was supposed to have.

If Duran and Ayala fought back then, I think Duran wins.

Duran sometimes had problems with movers (like Leonard and even Laing), but he loved a close-up brawl.

What we learned when Ayala was released from prison and actually took a beating in a fight (against Yori Boy) was that Ayala was a classic bully.

When his opponents fought back - which they didn't do in the early 80s - Ayala would give up.

Duran would've made him quit.

Here are a couple articles from that time. It's amazing how little coverage there was of Ayala's actual crimes. We found out later when Ayala was arrested for punching that girl in the drive-in bathroom when he was 15, he was actually really drunk, followed her in, tried to **** her, and when she fought him he beat her mercilessly. That was all pushed under the rug because he was a popular local athlete. The "burglaries" and "mistaken home" cases were a pattern where Ayala would get drunk, break into a woman's home, and **** or attempt to **** them after they'd gone to bed. Most of those were also excused or explained with "he thought he was in his own home." (LOL) Amazing.

When he was finally released from prison, he started doing it again, even when Arum and ESPN were heavily hyping him. The last woman he tried to **** after breaking into her home shot him.

Instead, the articles back then mostly talked about how much money he had made and how sensitive he was. (shakes head)

Just a dangerous ****** who everyone in the world covered for back then. Pretty despicable. Michael Katz, the boxing writer and NY Times contributor, wrote most of these.

Duran to Fight in Fall
New York Times
July 29, 1982

Roberto Duran of Panama, the former lightweight and welterweight champion, will meet undefeated Tony Ayala of San Antonio in a junior middleweight bout Nov. 19, the promoter Don King announced.

The 12-round bout, at a site to be determined, will be shown live by NBC-TV. King also announced a second bout for the weekend of Aug. 14-15 in Cleveland. James (Quick) Tillis will meet Tim Witherspoon in a heavyweight bout on the 15th, King said, one day after a previously announced bout between Trevor Berbick and Renaldo Snipes.


Who Will Fight Duran?
New York Times
July 30, 1982

Roberto Duran, the former lightweight and welterweight champion, has a fight scheduled for Nov. 19, but the question is who will be his opponent: Tony Ayala or Davey Moore? The promoter Don King said Wednesday that Duran would fight Ayala in a 12-round match to be telecast by NBC. Yesterday, the promoter Bob Arum announced that Duran would challenge Moore for the World Boxing Association's junior middleweight title on NBC. Tom Merritt, a spokesman for NBC, said, ''We're looking for a Duran fight in prime time on Nov. 19.'' The opponent? Merritt said he didn't know.

The Wrong House
The New York Times
Aug. 17, 1982

He's 19 years old, has earned almost $500,000 so far, has a $750,000 fight scheduled Nov. 19 against Roberto Duran and yesterday morning was arrested for burglary. But according to representatives of Tony (El Torito) Ayala Jr., the undefeated junior middleweight contender from San Antonio, it was merely a mistake.

''Torito and his wife had broken up, and he was in their new house, feeling depressed, when he started drinking,'' said Kathy Duva, daughter-in-law of one of Ayala's co-managers, Lou Duva. ''He went out for a walk and when he went back he went into the wrong house by mistake.'' Ayala, who two years ago received a 10-year suspended sentence on an assault charge, was released on $10,000 bond. Later in the day, officials filed a motion to revoke his probation stemming from the assault case. Ayala returned to court, posted the bond again and was released. He has 10 days to prepare for a hearing on whether the probation should be revoked.


A TROUBLED AYALA WILL ENTER CLINIC FOR EMOTIONAL HELP
New York Times
Aug. 23, 1982

Tony Ayala Jr., the undefeated 19-year-old professional boxer besieged by legal problems back home in San Antonio, will enter a clinic Wednesday for a minimum of 28 days in an attempt to solve emotional problems.

''Tony needs help,'' said Dan Duva, the president of Main Events, which promotes Ayala's fights. ''He definitely has emotional problems. He is not a criminal. He doesn't need to be put in jail.''

Ayala is scheduled to meet Roberto Duran, the former lightweight and welterweight champion, Nov. 19 in a junior middleweight bout copromoted by Duva and Don King and scheduled to be shown in prime time by NBC.

''I don't think the Duran fight is in jeopardy,'' Duva said today, ''because Tony will be able to train while he is at this clinic. But that is not what we are worried about now. We told Tony last night the most important thing is we start on the road to getting his problems straightened out and that whether he fights Duran is not our primary concern.

''It's like when Ray Leonard hurt his eye and people would ask Mike Trainer and Janks Morton if he was going to fight again. They said the important thing was that the eye is O.K.''

Ayala, who was at ringside at the American Great Gorge Resort Hotel here today to cheer for two of his stablemates, Johnny Bumphus and Rocky Lockridge, would not talk to reporters concerning his problems. He was arrested last Monday in San Antonio and charged with burglary. The fighter said he had been drinking and had stumbled into the wrong house.

A burglary conviction, which Duva thinks is highly unlikely, would probably mean the revocation of the 10-year probation Ayala received on an assault charge when he was 15 years old. In that instance, too, Ayala said he had been drinking. A Very Sensitive Boxer

According to Duva, Ayala is ''without doubt the most sensitive man I've ever met in boxing.''

Duva said the problem came from years of Ayala keeping his sensitivities to himself. He has had several estrangements from his 18-year-old wife, Lisa, and he has been admonished by his father (who is also his trainer) for crying. Ayala said he was drinking last week because Lisa had left him. She was here with him in a room adjoining the room the Duvas were staying in.

Ayala's sensitivities have not been apparent in the ring, where he has an almost maniacal look in his eye -very reminiscent of how Duran used to look. He spit on one opponent after knocking him out. When he was knocked down in the first round by Mario Maldonado last year, Ayala, sitting on the ring floor, yelled across the ring at Maldonado, who was standing in a neutral corner following the knockdown, and threatened him. The intimidated Maldonado was knocked out in the third round. In his last fight, on Aug.1 in San Antonio, Ayala continued throwing punches at Robbie Epps even after the referee stopped the bout in the first round.

 

A Lost Payday
New York Times
Sept. 7, 1982

Tony Ayala Jr., under treatment for alcoholism and other personal problems, watched a $650,000 payday disappear Saturday night when Roberto Duran was upset by Kirkland Laing of Britain. ''He took it in stride,'' said Dan Duva, who was to have co-promoted, with Don King, Ayala's bout with Duran on Nov. 19.

Ayala was given a pass to leave the Care Unit Hospital in Orange, Calif., where he has been for almost two weeks, to watch the Duran-Laing fight, which was shown by the Entertainment and Sports Programming Network cable television company. But the undefeated junior middleweight had to be back in the clinic by 8 P.M. and missed the final two rounds.

''First thing he wanted to know was who won,'' said Kathy Duva, the promoter's wife, who had called Ayala at the clinic just as he returned. ''He reacted very normally. He started cursing Duran, saying he had absolutely nothing and the guy he fought was a stiff, and why didn't they get him someone with no chin who walked right in. Then he started joking. A couple of weeks ago, I don't think he would've taken it that well.''

Ayala, 19 years old, entered the clinic voluntarily after being arrested for burglary in his home town of San Antonio, Tex. He claimed he was drunk at the time and had entered a house thinking it was the new one he had just bought. He will be at the clinic a minimum of 28 days, but he is allowed to leave for training purposes. Now, however, there is no immediate fight in his future. NBC, which was to have televised the Duran-Ayala bout in prime time, has not made it official, but Duva said that ''for all intents and purposes,'' the bout is now off.

AYALA IS WINNING HIS TOUGHEST BOUT


Michael Katz
New York Times

Oct. 27, 1982


Tony Ayala Jr. did not duck the questions yesterday. In the ring, he does not mind taking a shot to the head, just so he could land one of his own. But it was always easier in the ring, face to face with his opponent.


''Are you an alcoholic?'' he was asked. ''Yes,'' the 19-year-old boxer replied quickly. ''Does it bother you to say that?'' ''No, it's a disease many of us have. It's no big bother to me.'' Ayala was making his first public appearance since his arrest last Aug. 16 on a burglary charge in his hometown of San Antonio, and his subsequent four-week voluntary stay at a California clinic for alcholism.

He was sitting at a table at Luchow's Restaurant at a news conference for NBC's boxing show on Saturday night, Nov. 20. Ayala, undefeated in 21 professional fights (with 19 knockouts) and the World Boxing Association's second-ranked junior middleweight, will be meeting top-ranked Carlos Herrera of Argentina in a 12-round ''title eliminator.'' Winner Will Meet Moore

The winner will be the next mandatory opponent for Davey Moore, the W.B.A. 154-pound champion. On the same card from Atlantic City's Convention Hall, Dwight Braxton will defend the World Boxing Council light-heavyweight championship against 31-year-old Eddie Davis of Freeport, L.I., in a bout that might have been something special had it taken place four years ago when Davis was in his prime.

In what is expected to be the most competitive fight of the tripleheader, undefeated Bobby Czyz will battle Mustafa Hamsho in a 10-round middleweight contest.

Yesterday, Ayala was not concerned with Herrera, but this was something different, answering questions. He said he had ''this self-confidence thing.''

''I didn't know how people would react to this,'' he said. ''I hate being embarrassed, I'm afraid to look dumb. In the ring, I'm confident, I feel secure.''

There were drinks on the table. Ayala said he did not mind. On the night of Aug. 16, he said, ''It seemed everything was closing in on me.'' He had just ''split'' with his 18-year-old wife, Lisa, and had been drinking. Ayala did not know he was an alcoholic, but he admitted, ''I knew I couldn't drink.''

''I didn't know it was a disease,'' he said. Got in Trouble at 15

He said he had never liked the taste of beer or liquor, but since the time he was 12 years old - ''when I got my first car, you know, when you're a kid and you get a car, you always drink'' - he had had a few from time to time. It got him in trouble when he was 15, when he attacked a girl after friends jokingly pushed him into the women's room at a drive-in theater. The girl screamed and Ayala began beating her. He is on a 10-year probation from those charges.

Ayala, Boxer, Charged With Assaults, Burglary
New York Times
Jan. 2, 1983


Tony Ayala, the No.1 contender for the World Boxing Association junior middleweight title, was arrested this morning on charges of aggravated sexual assault, burglary and aggravated assault, the police said.

Ayala, 19 years old, was arrested shortly after 6 A.M. and arraigned this afternoon before Magistrate Joseph Weiner, said Detective Joseph Lambert. According to Officer Thomas Hemsey, Ayala was being held in Passaic County Jail in lieu of $50,000 bail.

Ayala, whose boxing record is 22-0, with 19 knockouts, is from San Antonio. He turned professional in June 1980.


Big Payday Lost

New York Times

Jan. 28, 1983


On New Year's Day at their training camp in Great Gorge, N.J., Davey Moore, the World Boxing Association junior middleweight champion, and his manager, Leon Washington, were listening to the radio. This was going to be a good year, they figured, capped by a $1.5 million payday to defend against Tony Ayala Jr. in the spring.

Then they heard the news: Ayala had been arrested and charged with sexual assault.

A grudge fight had been building between the two young undefeated fighters who had started their careers together as part of NBC Television's ''Tomorrow's Champions.'' But Moore can only put Ayala, who is out of jail on bail, to the back of his mind and concentrate now on his previously postponed defense against Gary Guiden of Muncie, Ind., which takes place tomorrow in Atlantic City.

Thomas Hearns, who won the World Boxing Council version of the 154-pound title from Wilfred Benitez last month, and Benitez himself are unlikely to jeopardize a potential bout with Marvelous Marvin Hagler for the middleweight title by meeting Moore. Next in line for Moore, who is expected to beat Guiden, might be In-Chul Baek of South Korea. The Korean would replace Ayala as the W.B.A. mandatory challenger.

''In his heart, Davey really wanted to shut up the critics who thought Ayala was going to knock him out,'' said Washington. ''He wanted the fight in Madison Square Garden.''



AYALA IS SENTENCED TO 35 YEARS IN JAIL
New York Times
June 22, 1983

Tony Ayala, the World Boxing Association's top-ranked junior-middleweight contender, saw his career come to an end today when he was sentenced to 35 years in prison and was ordered by the judge to serve at least 15 years before becoming eligible for parole.

Ayala, a 20-year-old native of San Antonio, was found guilty on April 13 of aggravated sexual assault and five other charges resulting from the New Year's Day **** of a 30-year-old woman in a West Paterson apartment complex where both of them lived.

The undefeated veteran of 22 professional fights wiped tears from his eyes several times during the sentencing, which took place in the crowded courtroom of Judge Amos Saunders of Passaic County Superior Court. The victim was among the spectators, who heard Judge Saunders say he had determined that Ayala was a threat to society and especially to women.

Ayala faces as much as 10 more years in jail in Texas because the West Paterson assault violated conditions of his parole in San Antonio, where he pleaded guilty four years ago of having attacked another woman.

William DeMarco, Ayala's attorney, said after today's proceeding that the 35-year sentence was a ''lot of time'' and that he would appeal. Ronald Marmo, an assistant county prosecutor, called the sentence fair.

The sentencing ends a career during which Ayala has struggled with alcohol problems but which could have brought him many millions of dollars over the next decade or so.

Ayala, who had a tremendous following in San Antonio and was extremely popular with the television networks, had earned nearly half a million dollars in the two years since he turned pro.

He had also signed a contract that would have brought him $750,000 to face Davey Moore for the W.B.A.'s junior-middleweight championship in May. Roberto Duran was substituted after Ayala's arrest, and last Thursday night Duran knocked out Moore at Madison Square Garden to win the title.

 

Exactly.

 

Tell that to Rory Boy. He schooled Ayala.

 

Sounds like a classic psychopath. If he didn't go to prison when he did he probably kills a woman. That type of behavior only gets worse as time goes forward and chemical dependency becomes worse.
I've seen it from criminals that commit those types of crimes for 26 yrs in law enforcement. They only get worse.