Floyd Mayweather: When Canelo fought me, he was in his prime, I was an old man. I wasn't in my prime

Agree about Canelo, I think it's debatable if Floyd was still in his prime. He wasn't at his peak anymore, but it seems to me that he stretched out his prime into his mid 30s. Yes he was P4P #1 and still considered the top boxer in the world, and to be still considered the top boxer, you'd have to be pretty damn close to still in your prime.

By the way Lance, I've asked this to others but haven't gotten an answer yet. If Floyd was no longer in his prime, as you claim, then when in your mind did Floyd's prime end? Can you pinpoint when his prime ended?

 

We're finally getting this topic back on track to what Floyd said. There's been a lot of posturing in this topic, trying to skirt around what Floyd said. This is a major plot point as it relates to fans interpretation of who is greater as a fighter Mayweather or Canelo. If Canelo is considered in his prime when he was 23, and if Floyd is considered old when he was 36, then people can run with that and argue that Floyd would always beat Canelo. But if Canelo wasn't prime, and if Floyd was essentially still in his prime, when that happened, then it's completely different.

Floyd and his fans are fighting to argue that what Floyd said true, as means to keep Floyd ahead of Canelo in people's minds no matter what Canelo does in his career. But we know better, we know that this is Floyd's way of trying to stay relevant to piggyback off of Canelo and remind us of what happened when they fought and to belabor the point. That win was over a limited, young Canelo who was still developing as a fighter, and he still fought Floyd tough even back then. But it has no bearing of how current Canelo would match up to Mayweather, Prime Mayweather would be 3 weight classes below. Those who back what Floyd said here are doing so in an effort to argue that Floyd would always beat Canelo, that it wasn't just the result of a contest 8 years ago that took a lot of calculation and strategy by Floyd to use a lot of factors to give himself advantages when that happened. We need to keep it real, call Floyd out on his BS, and make it very clear that today's Canelo would destroy any version of Mayweather, and to understand that it took a very narrow set of circumstances for Floyd to beat Canelo at any point in time.

 

No, it's not debatable, if you understand what prime refers to. Floyd was 36, he was no tin his prime. He was slightly passed it. Sure he was still atop the game, but just not in his prime. Just as B Hops was when he near that age.

 

When in your mind did Floyd's prime end?

 

Probably around age 30-32-ish.

 

So half of his prime he was retired? Mayweather was 30 years old and 9 months vs Hatton, then he retired for almost 2 years. I would say that he was at his peak when he fought Hatton then retired. By the time he fought Mosley he was 33. When he fought Marquez he was still 32. Was he prime vs Marquez, was he out of his prime when he fought Mosley, did he fall out of prime when he got hit with that big shot by Mosley in the 2nd round?

 

Thats what the true results should have been. It was corruption that gave floyd decisions he did not deserve

 

so corruption is bad in boxing...unless CJ doesn't want to acknowledge it?

tamper with floyd's fight results, tamper with margarito's ban.

 

I'd hate to think you two were really as naive or plain dumb to not see the corruption surrounding Floyd & Vegas.Everyone knows what went on with IV gate etc. but no one acknowledges it or try to explain it.
The two scenarios you mention differ in the fact.... The commission involved with Floyd know that to do what was right & cancel the May2 2015 fiasco. But to do so would cause a financial crisis so a cover up for Floyd's cheating was hastily put in place.But all it really did was further prove his guilt
As for the Margarito fiasco the commission were all for railroading Tony. After all he'd just LEGITIMATELY kicked Cotto's ass when he wasnt supposed to. Both Floyd & Oscar had said they wanted the winner, Oscar especially for a Big win & off to retirement. But now Margarito had put the spanner in the works. He was the man to beat not but neither of your heroes wanted any part of him. hey knew they couldnt beat him. Nazim Richardsons blatant lie about Plaster Blocks gave them the answer. he result an innocent man s good name & career were tarnished because he had to be got rid of.
Prove me wrong,if you can. Not just more suspicions. I know you cannot so just admit defeat & let them be remembered as two of boxings worst black eyes. I sincerely hope Karma rears its head & punishes the guilty

 

you keep saying this even though i've acknowledged it multiple times by replying directly to you.
the problem is you get so incensed that you just lock in auto pilot and keep repeating what you said the last time.

that said, the answer isn't to pick and choose what you do and don't believe just because you're incensed that margarito didn't do enough to earn a shot at floyd, and that you don't want to believe that margarito cheated.

you judge floyd for cheating, but then admonish margarito completely simply because you claimed you knew him and are loyal.
you want to give floyd multiple losses, while redeeming some of margarito's.

you're effectively advocating for the very thing you claim you hate the most in the sport.

 

Floyd was caught with the needle in his arm ,in his own home, receiving an ILLEGAL, EXCESSIVE 750 ml of saline drip 24 hours before fighting Manny Pacquaio on May 2015. This broke at least THREE rules regarding saline treatment for dehydration The NSAC's response... "Mr Mayweather did nothing wrong , so we will not be investigating" ROFL!!
Nazim Richardson claimed he saw plaster blocks fall from Margarito wraps This set off the commission who eventually revoked Margarito's boxing licence for 2 years on suspicion he tried to load his gloves.
No plaster blocks were ever found nor were the pads in Marg's wraps "Smeared with a white plaster like substance" Two obvious deliberate lies.
Margaritos good name & career were permanently tarnished as a result
Its not what you know its WHO you know I guess

 

i just finished telling you that i've repeatedly admitted there is corruption in the sport and this happened, and here you are going on autopilot once again...

 

finally we agree on something . cotto beat his ass in the rematch, and margo was banned.

 

What side of the spectrum am i?

Are you referring autism?

Its irrelevant anyway

They fought, Canelo lost

The end

 

Cotto NEVER beat Margarito. That NY doc stopped the fight just when Tony was coming back & beating his chest at Cotto who was fading fast a la First fight. The doc stopped that fight to save Cotto quitting AGAIN!!! not to save Tony's eye. Tony couldnt see out of that eye from early round 2 . The doc knew this so why didnt he stop the fight earlier?? No it just proved Cotto STILL couldnt beat a one eyed Margarito. That doc saw a repeat of fight one happening with Cotto quitting on his knees AGAIN!!!!! he saved him more embarrassment. I suppose you'll say Tony had loaded gloves again huh???? ROFLMAO. Cotto was just a diva Ok when winning but when the tables were turned he took to his knees & QUIT!!!!