I just spent 4 HOURS watchin GGG - CANELO 2 at 0.25 speed, TOTAL punch stats + unique punch scoring.

Not saying G lost. Just speaking to the OP's scoring.

 

That's fine, I know it's a lot of work to do timestamps on all 12 rounds. When I do my punch summaries I do it one round at a time. But you just giving totals per round in your scoring system, we have no idea which punches you counted and gave certain points to. So we have no way to directly challenge your view of specific punch exchanges, which is what you would need to do to document your scoring on a punch by punch basis, so we can check your scoring. The easiest way is to narrow down which rounds we disagree on, then focus on only the rounds that we disagree on that we can go into greater detail in specific rounds.

I do like the fact that you're trying to differentiate punch counting with points, giving more points for better punches. But one problem right off the bat is that your points system doesn't translate to your overall scoring. You said you had it "117-111 to Golovkin, 115-113 GGG if I gave Canelo every close round." Well wait a minute, if we're going by the results of your RBR points system, then the only round in which Canelo scored more points than GGG in your system is round 2. You had Round 7 an even amount of your points and Round 6 GGG with 1 more point. So according to your system, GGG would have won 10 rounds to 1 with 1 round even. But you're saying you had it 117-111 GGG or 115-113 GGG.

So how do you go from your unique scoring system per round which has GGG ahead in 10 rounds 1 round even and only 1 round to Canelo, to only a 9-3 / 7-5 in your overall scoring? Your final score doesn't translate to the results of your new scoring system.

 

Well, you mean power punches really connected?
Okey, if I will use 1/4 speed and count as most important power punches, then I had to score these fights : Hunter vs Povetkin for Povetkin and Briedis vs Usyk for Briedis.
While if I evalue also overall activity and jabs in the account I might somewhat agree that Hunter vs Povetkin was as a draw and I had scored Briedis vs Usyk fight for Usyk with my card 115-113 for Usyk and it still was damn close.

 

let me give you another example. so you can learn who is who and what they are all about.
all those that been talking out the sides of your mouths in this thread about what i know or dont know, i challenge you to a 10 fight derby this weekend as an avatar bet. the one with the most correct picks chooses avatar for the loser. step up and put your money where your mouth is.
now lets see how confident they are in the crap that dribbles out their ass. i know where my confidence sits.

 

Count yourself some mates.

 

slowmotion, what a classic

Did you watch the fight in reverse? if you watch the fight reversed pacquiao wins the fight. Really, try it.

 

Jab accuracy counts as well. Canelo was giving GGG a lot of head movement in the rematch, which significantly lowered GGG's jab accuracy from the first fight and from his normal jab accuracy. A running tally of landed jabs means nothing by itself. It takes more skill to block a jab or to slip a jab than to throw out a jab and hope it lands. GGG missed a ton of jabs in the rematch, he landed more jabs than Canelo but many of the jabs he landed were ineffective or light jabs. In terms of the hard flush jabs that landed both men landed a comparable amount of those.

It's an important distinction because GGG gets a lot of credit for being the better jabber, but in reality Canelo was the better jabber in that he was more accurate with the jab and a higher % of his jabs landed harder than GGG's. GGG was more active with the jab, threw more and landed more, but Canelo was more selective, accurate and effective with his jabs.

 

So you went against your own scoring of the rounds and gave them to Canelo anyway even though you had GGG with more points? That should tell you how flawed your system is right there, you add up all your points then you still score it for guy who you said scored less points in the round. Obivously no one in their right mind would think GGG won 10 rounds to 1 with 1 even, so this suggests there's a problem with your scoring system.

Remember Sanchez made it very clear that GGG was losing the match after 7 rounds -

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GGG nodded after being told he was losing.

Canelo was winning 5 rounds to 2 at that point, or 4 rounds to 3 at worst for Sanchez to believe that GGG was losing. (unless you score rounds even which judges don't do) So through 7 rounds, Sanchez already saw Canelo winning 3 or 4 more rounds than you gave to Canelo in the entire match according to your own score system.

GGG won rounds 1 and 4, Canelo won rounds 2, 3, 5, 6 and 7. Now I've admitted to Q74 that round 5 was close and you could make a reasonable argument that GGG won that round, but rounds 6 and 7 are harder to give to GGG. Again, for GGG to be losing after 7 rounds as Sanchez indicated, that's giving GGG rounds 1 and 4, and a maximum of ONE other round over the first 7. It's a big stretch to have GGG winning the fight after 7 rounds, which is what you're saying when his own trainer made it very clear he was losing at that point. It's also hard for you to argue that rounds 6 or 7 were 10-10 or GGG rounds when his own trainer was letting GGG that he was losing at that point. I'm not sure how you end up with GGG winning round 3 either, that was a very good round for Canelo. That would be a good round (round 3) for you to do time stamps to see how you're rating punches landed.

 

Of course and he was correct: very big cash cow should be stopped in distance to win.

Yeah, he did not had managed to do this and still: pro boxing is more about to sell tickets and ppvs etc not who there was better. Belts and HOF are for fun only and ATG talks too etc are just big fun.
Nope, Canelo is interesting only for US/ Mexican fanbase while being in reality ginger and GRINGO.
He btw is looking more european than average inhabitant in Ireland or U.K.

 

you gonna take my challenge, or you just gonna ***** out and keep pretending youre something you aint?

 

I actually have better things to do with my free time then a ten fight derby for bragging right on a message board w/ a stranger. But good luck.

 

imagine that. totally unexpected response. even though the challenge wasnt directed at you, nobody could have foreseen that road to be taken, lol.

 

You quoted me with that direct challenge. Are you high or drunk or something?

Sure, if no one accepts your 'call out' challenge they must be afraid.