I just spent 4 HOURS watchin GGG - CANELO 2 at 0.25 speed, TOTAL punch stats + unique punch scoring.

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're afraid to go through the rest of the punch summary because they involve time stamps of clean flush shots landed on GGG by Canelo that you can't spin your way out of. This is a duel, if you check out of the contest mid-way through the round, you will lose by forfeit.
     
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  2. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol don't troll bait me. I've read through your **** second post and it's laughable It's despicable to act as if I'm spinning you scumbag. Typical shadow behaviour. Your scoring is inconsistent and there's blatant bias.. There's no losing by forfeit when the opposition is lying through their teeth and being extremely biased.

    Canelo lands about 3-4 clean right hands Golovkin lands similar but heavier coupled with cleaner jabs as I've documented. The rest you've overemphasised grazing shots/non existent punches. It's a clear Golovkin round and you're poor attempt at spinning isn't working lmao nice try though
     
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  3. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bro, you said the jab at 2:02 that Canelo "landed" was the most effective jab, it didn't even land , please take the Canelo tinted glasses off man. In that sequence around 2:02, Canelo didn't land a single jab, GGG landed two.
     
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  4. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep, GGG beat him twice. Water is wet, sky is blue.
     
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  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You called a ton of blocked jabs landed for GGG and missed several Canelo landed punches.

    The sequence starting at 2:04, there were 4 punches, first a jab by GGG at 2:04 blocked by Canelo, then a counter jab by Canelo at 2:03, then a counter jab by GGG, then at 2:02 Canelo lands a clean jab to the face.

    So in this sequence Canelo landed 2 jabs, GGG only landed 1 jab, GGG had one blocked. You had it right in your punch summary, giving Canelo credit for 2 jabs GGG only 1. But I'm just saying that the last jab by Canelo at 2:01 was cleaner than the middle two which may have been blocked and were harder to see if they landed cleanly.
     
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  6. BCS8

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    That's why I don't do rbr with Shadow.

    Canelo *whiffs air in front of ggg*
    Shadow "OMG that could easliy have been a scoring punch, I think the camera angle is deceiving us. And even if it wasn't the movement of the air must have been considerable. You have to consider the psychological aspect of having such a powerful potentially spit-spraying, neck-snapping punch shoot past your eyes like that. You can see the fear in GGG's eyes at 1:15. Yeah Canelo gets credit for that from me.

    Golovkin *snaps Canelo's head back*
    Shadow "nah that wasn't a scoring punch. You can see the speed that Canelo pulls his head back with it's almost like he got hit, it shows his skill. And even if it did connect lightly, it doesn't count because it brushed against a glove first so actually it was blocked by Canelo's awesome skills."
     
  7. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Personal attacks are different in a boxing forum? What does family have to do with a boxing forum?? Are you that dumb that can't notice the difference??
     
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    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Personal attacks are different in a boxing forum? What does family have to do with a boxing forum?? Are you that dumb that can't notice the difference??
     
  9. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's a pointless exercise.. There's some bull**** every other timestamp...you can't debate with fanboys
     
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  10. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Was boxing ever meant to be scored so intensely?

    Being like this must take a lot of the fun out of fights
     
  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I've never said anything like that. I've gone through the round punch for punch and made corrections to FastSmith7's punch summary. There are a lot of examples of missed or misinterpreted punches that I highlighted, I filled in the blanks with what he missed and provided more detailed descriptions of what happened, giving credit where it's due.

    You're trying to exaggerate what I'm saying to make it seem like I'm being unreasonable. Q checked out mid-way through the round. He checked out because he was afraid to go through the 2nd half of the round the part of the round where Canelo landed far more clean shots on GGG than GGG landed on him.
     
  12. shadow111

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    Please, you can't come to terms with the punches I highlighted that you and Smithy missed. It's not pointless, it's quite informative and revealing. You couldn't handle the truth about what happened in the round so you checked out mid-way through the exercise. You lose by forfeit. The only question now is will Smithy address the corrections that you refuse to or will he follow suit. Either way it's looking pretty good for me. Documenting the action in key rounds of a debatable match is very useful. Now we know what really happened which no GGG fanboy BS can deny.
     
  13. BCS8

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    :eek: I shall send a text to Guadalajara immediately to tell them that you aren't doing your best.
    :rolleyes: You're infamous for seeing things that aren't there.
    The sad thing is, I'm only exaggerating a little.
    ... of wasting his time. Yes.
    One day when I'm in the mood and have some time I'll do a RBR with you and 'see' all the stuff you are missing. :eatingburger
     
  14. shadow111

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    No one likes to be shown up and exposed, but it's impossible not when punches have been missed or blocked punches have been counted. That doesn't mean I've described everything perfectly, this is all open for debate. Like with 2:50, I tried to meet him halfway and say OK maybe it was a partial land. I'm not beyond admitting if I exaggerated something. Part of my counter responses are you make you look and describe it in your own words if you disagree with me. But it needs to be factual and clearly the vast majority of my corrections were needed as Smithy missed punches that were landed or labeled punches landed that were really blocked.
     
  15. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're a man in serious delusion. I read through all of that **** and it took me a 30-45 minutes writing that first half up. In that first half alone there's just so much lies and exaggeration. Im not going to waste my time going through the second half because I've read through and it's filled with the exact same inconsistencies. In the second half there's countless grazing punches you're emphasising as being effective clean punches (ill give you one example here I'm not going through it - the grazing uppercut) . There's numerous shots you claim landed by Canelo even though no visible evidence (ie there are loads of these ones, one is a right hook then s body shot which you say looks to land even though from the camera angle all you can see is Canelo throwing a hook and not see where it lands neither can you see if it lands to the body. In this instance Golovkins hand is up and you can't see his head move and the body shot there's absolutely no evidence of).

    There are also quite a few inside gloves slaps/forearm slaps that you overemphasise as if it's clean punching.

    At some point you talk about one Canelos jab being the best jab of the round despite it barely nicking Golovkins forehead and looking like it may have been parried.. All in all I think you can see why I don't want to spend 30 minutes explaining what is actually happening in reality for you then to just deny or act as if something different happened. You're honestly just an idiot

    Then you over emphasise some of the right hands from Canelo that you think are monster shots just because they have a slapping sound lmao.

    All in all you're just entirely inconsistent and a blatant fanboy however you want to spin reality.. And you're the only one who doesn't think that
     
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