I just spent 4 HOURS watchin GGG - CANELO 2 at 0.25 speed, TOTAL punch stats + unique punch scoring.

Absolute liar.. BC may be exaggerating a tad but you do come up with a load of **** like that and consistently

 

Off the charts delusional.. And not only that you've done it before the points I raise about grazing punches, inside gloves slaps, punches that don't land.. You ignore the point raised and just move on like you're right lmao what's the point even engaging in a debate with someone like that.. Its not even a debate.. such a weird guy

 

I stated that many punches in this round are hard to tell how they landed due to the camera angle. Many shots are inconclusive or only partial lands. If you disagree with something be specific and tell me what you see, rather than flipping out constantly like you did in your previous post.

Which punch are you referring to here? Timestamp?

You gotta be specific. You posting generalizations is no good here. We're dealing with punch summaries and timestamps to avoid this kind of thing. If you're going to say I've exaggerated something, then be specific, and tell me what you see on a specific punch with a timestamp then we can try to meet in the middle.

If you're talking about the one at 2:01 it wasn't parried, and I didn't say it was the best jab in the round just the best (or cleanest landed) of that series of jabs. You're twising what I'm saying again as usual and you're not citing specific punches which is contrary to the point of this exercise. The point of this is to look at specific punches and not just make sweeping generalizations without being specific.

You're not interested in looking at what is actually happening. You're refusing to look at the punches I've cited that you and Smithy missed. If you disagree with my description of a punch then tell me what you're seeing, give a timestamp and I'll take a look. I'm very reasonable if you think I've described something inaccurately, this is an open debate, and I don't claim to describe everything perfectly.

 

You're either not being specific and are just speaking "in general" or when you tried to respond to specific punches over the first half of the round you take extreme positions, you haven't showed any real desire to have a factual debate.

 

Absolute liar. I'm talking about 1:28 re the right hook then body shot you can't see. You say "good combo" hence heavily suggesting it landed when there's no evidence. Again I'm not going through the whole second half again but you've done this several times as ive watched the fight and looked through your useless timestamps you outright lying deceptive scumbag.


">> 1:06 you missed this, Canelo uppercut lands clean"
Again deceptive over emphasising, liar.

"Partial hook? Wrong. Right hook landed clean across GGG's face hard. Great punch. That punch hurt GGG look at him wobbling around after that"
He rolls with the punch then you say this **** like he is wobbly and hurt. Again you're an imbecile. Whereas Camelo does an obvious stumble with left hand later in the round and you downplay it

"Hard, clean flush jab. Much better than any GGG jab this round" at 1:10. This is the one I'm taking about. Another example of why you shouldn't be trusted scoring rounds and honestly deserve a ban for a being do dishonest

Now this is obvious stuff so I expect you to spin it. However, I'm not going to respond any more because you are slimy dishonest little douche who makes up **** then acts as if I'm doing the twisting/spinning. Pos material who isn't worthy of a response.

You're just a dishonest scumbag with minimal intelligence and maximum bias. No idea how to score rounds but your ego and unexplainable arrogance blinds you from reality

 

Again spinning as if you're not the one lying through your teeth and exaggerating **** throughout.. Deluded

 

you guys driving me crazy, i gonna rewatch it again

 

Such a deceptive ass. Its a never ending cycle of me pointing out what your seeing is blatantly wrong then you either just ignoring the fact it's wrong or being insistent that it's a clean landed blow. So basically either ignore what happened if not keep hacking at it like it landed with any significance. Its the same tale with you exaggerating stuff Canelo does in every instance. That's fanboyism 101 and unfortunately a debate can't be had with those kinds of people.

You're the complete opposite of reasonable then you come off with statements like the one quoted acting is you are. It's a really weird thing to see. Embodiment of delusion and being deceptive. It's literally you trying to save face in a thread 3 or 4 people are reading... Just accept it you're deluded

 

I gonna watch each round from time to time, cant be assed to watch whole things in one sitting.
Round one:

GGG was mostly jabbing, he landed most clean jabs on 0:32, 0:08, 0:06.

Canelo left hook landed kinda between chest and jaw on 2:43.
Landed right hand to the body on 2:34.
Right hand on 1:28 was completely blocked by GGG, but in competitive round such loud power punches gonna count, if you really cant decide whom to give the round.
Left hook to the ear 0:41
Jab to the forehead 0:07

I gonna give round to Canelo because of some of his power punches, the thing is that GGG is such a brute, when Canelo lands his hooks, GGG head barely moves.

10-9 Canelo

 

(2:46) It's effective because it landed flush, had power, moved GGG back. But of course I recognized that it was mostly blocked by GGG, but still hit part of the glove hit shoulder. You're flipping out here but I've described it accurately. It's a partial land, effective because it landed with power and moved GGG. Partially blocked shots can still be effective. But nowhere was I trying to give full credit or make it seem like it landed clean. All I'm saying is it was an effective punch, that was partly blocked by GGG.

(2:43) Yeah the right hand landed clown. Poor perception? I described it accurate, you can't deny that the right hand landed.

(2:31) It was blocked by Canelo's left glove. You wanna call that a partial land? It didn't land clean.

See here : https://i.imgur.com/6X2wbNH.jpeg

(2:29) Sue me for being thorough. It landed cleaner than GGG's blocked jab at 2:31 that Smithy gave GGG full credit for, while ignoring this.

(2:23) Impossible to see how clean it landed becuase the referee is blocking our view of the jab to the body as Canelo was backing away. The footage is inconclusive, from the best I can tell, it looked like it barely grazed him.

Hard to see how it landed due to the camera angle, but you can see the jab bounce off Canelo's right glove, he had a tight guard as he was giving GGG footwork. It was not a clean jab, it appeared to me to be totally blocked. You can't prove that landed through the guard from that camera angle. But Smithy was counting that as a landed GGG jab when you can plainly see Canelo got his glove onto it.

Jab at 2:12 smacked GGG right in the mouth. GGG's counter jab landed on the forehead, decent counter jab, you say it rocked Canelo lol, Canelo was giving him headmovement there. It was a clean jab landed by GGG but not as hard as Canelo's which smacked GGG right in the mouth.

(2:07) It wasn't a jab, it was like a pseudo left hook that GGG tried to turn into a jab at the last second while reaching. Canelo was moving his upper body to his left, GGG was reaching trying to make this punch land. It barely grazed him, this was not a clean punch.

Both men threw two jabs - GGG first jab BLOCKED, GGG second jab got through. That 2nd jab had some pop on it.
Canelo's first jab, a counter jab, we don't have the best angle but you can see GGG's head snap back. Canelo's 2nd jab landed clean. You can make the argument that GGG's one landed jab was harder than Canelo's jabs, I don't have a problem with that argument, but it's also easier to see that one than Canelo's counter jab due to the camera angle. Canelo's 2nd jab wasn't as hard but it did land cleaner without any blocking glove nearby.

Watch it closely at 0.25 speed. It connects to the side of his head then slips to the neck area as GGG moved his head forward.
Here's a snapshot to see where it landed before the punch slid through to the neck area as GGG moved his head forward:

https://i.imgur.com/3tcp4j8.jpg

It's hard to see with the low frame rate, but look at the location of the punch here -

https://i.imgur.com/pFfEYJN.jpg

It smacks GGG right across the jaw.

Hard to see from the angle, looks like it landed through to the chest area. Smithy counted that as a body shot for Canelo, I was saying it looked OK but it was hard to see how well it landed.

This is sort of like Canelo's left hook at 1:56, it lands to the side of the face then slips down to his neck. GGG landed to the side of the face then it slipped down to the neck area.

GGG tried to avoid it but it caught him near the chin. He was surprised by it, it put him off balance.

Right before that (after the GGG left hook at 1:41) GGG also landed a clean right straight to the chin.

I'm being very reasonable here, no need for you to exaggerate.

 

Actually it was a inside glove shot to the gloves forearms. I don't know why you're trying to try and demonstrate as if this was an effective blow as if it would be scored.

Are you serious?

Yes that it is not what I said at all I literally said it was a light tap. It made contact but I wouldn't score it as anything..Where did I say it landed clean?

Right I can't do this anymore too much time wasting and you're clutching at the straws being dishonest on each of the first three points I read first. Had a brief scroll down and you're doing the same with practically everything

Just admit it you're an impossible fanboy. You won't concede on any point.. At least I'd accept if something didn't land or was too hard to tell if it didn't land (don't make out as if you are doing this because there many instances where you are not you liar)

 

(1:28) It was a "good combo", the right hook landed flush across the side of GGG's head, followed by the left uppercut. You call that a body shot? It's hard to see due to Canelo's back blocking our view of it, looks like it was an uppercut to the chin pushing GGG's head upward. You can see GGG brace for impact and his head moves up. Our view of the uppercut is blocked but from what we can see, it's a good 2 punch combo. You call that lying or being deceptive? Give me a break, anyone can see that was a good two punch combo. Even if the left uppercut was partly blocked, which we have no evidence that it was.

I can tell by you calling me a scumbag for calling this a "good combo" without me even going into any detail shows how emotional you are. You can't be objective or reasonable or factual whilst being so damned emo.

(1:06) How is my description of this punch Deceptive? Smithy completely missed this punch. The uppercut skidded and slipped through upwards but it connected clean across the bridge of his nose / forehead. See here :

https://i.imgur.com/kjOu7ev.jpg

Nothing deceptive about me highlighting a clean landed uppercut that Smithy missed.

 

Both responses are laughable I don't even need to explain.. People can see for themselves what a reaching idiot you are lmao

 

Did the uppercut at 1:06 land or not? Yes or No?

https://i.imgur.com/kjOu7ev.jpg

You know the answer, it clearly landed and a clean landed uppercut across the face can't be ignored.

People can see for themselves that the uppercut landed which you can't cope with. And people can also see for themelves that it was a good "right hook, left uppercut" 2-punch combo at 1:28 which you also can't cope with that you spazzed out over lol.

 

Okay. This is my last response definitely this time lol.

1:06 scoring that uppercut as landed or clean or anything would be just plain stupid.. If you want to give credit for that then I think you're the only person in this forum who would

1:28 like I said you can't see anything. You say right hand and uppercut land and GGG head moves up landed on the uppercut. You can't see the right hand land as you claim and it appears GGG hands were in position to block.. Then Canelo tries to land a body shot to which the ref prompts to keep the punches from going low as obviously seen

You don't have a keen eye and are dishonest. Just accept it