I just spent 4 HOURS watchin GGG - CANELO 2 at 0.25 speed, TOTAL punch stats + unique punch scoring.

Because it had an impact. It was eye-catching, it moved GGG back.

It's inconclusive from the camera angle. If I had to guess, it looks to me that the right hand landed but I can't be sure. Not a clear block, not a clear miss, not a clear landed punch. Inconclusive. How's that?

You didn't, but Smithy did and counted that as landed jab by GGG. I corrected him and pointed out that it was blocked. I wouldn't even call it a light tap, it was mostly or entirely blocked. Shouldn't be counted as a landed jab by GGG as you confirmed that you wouldn't score it as anything. So we agree on this, but Smithy counted it as a landed jab.

 

You're being dishonest here. It clearly connects upward across his face :

https://i.imgur.com/kjOu7ev.jpg

You can see the right hand land across his head. Some of the punch isn't seen due to the camera angle but you can see the top of the glove connect to the side of GGG's head and his head moved by the punch -

https://i.imgur.com/BP7NF7n.jpg

The left uppercut is hard to see, looks like it connected to his chin but it's just a guess. Even if the left uppercut was partly blocked it's still a "good combo".

 

You call this barely nicking GGG's forehead and "looking like it may have been parried"?

https://i.imgur.com/lepDpN1.jpg

Find me a better jab landed by GGG in this entire round. You had the gall to say "despite it barely nicking GGG's forehead" and "looking like it may have been parried". Don't ever accuse me of trying to be deceptive after making stuff up with this amount of spin.

This jab at 1:10 landed flush onto GGG's forehead, there was nothing that could be remotely considered a possible parry as you claimed. It was a clean jab that landed no doubt about it, flush to the forehead, yet you attempted to argue that it "barely nicked" GGG or that it may have been parried. You're a clown trying to defend GGG like a raging fanboy. Most of GGG's jabs this round were blocked or partly blocked and I challenge you to find any GGG jab that was better than this one by Canelo at 1:10.

 

Can you just concede and accept it landed on the gloves and was an insignificant punch? Because that's exactly what it was.. Youre trying to reach as if it meant anything.. No judges would consider this as anything apart from a missed judge. Youre basically saying any punch thrown and landed on gloves /arms is effective.. Which is just reaching.. If you're not gonna concede here then you've got to just accept you're deluded.

It's not inconclusive, theres nothing to indicate it landed and you're insistent that it is inconclusive is trying to paint in a positive light.

OK so irrelevant my discussion with you is separate from your discussion with Smith. And my point was you note similar stuff like this from GGG as Canelo but landing clean

 

LOL Im being dishonest LOL... Here you are again try to make out as if I'm being dishonest... I said "1:06 scoring that uppercut as landed or clean or anything would be just plain stupid.." now please watch 1:06 at 0.25x speed and normal speed.. Because that still stands..

Re that "good combo" 1:28.. Again there's no evidence of the right hand landing.. And it's like you're not even reading what I'm saying and just thinking you're right, the "uppercut to the chin moves his head"..again I said its the body which is what it was read my description you mong.. Watch in slow mo if you can't see it.. Obvious attempt to the body

 

This is just hilarious watch it at 1:10 slow mo and normal speed... To actually gauge the impact. It literally barely touches his forehead if that and you can see the Golovkins glove Appears to move in the way of the punch. Not only that but the unique sound the punch makes indicates it may have hit the glove. So your assertion there's no evidence of it be parried is flawed completely and utterly. Also lmao I can point out a whole list of jabs in the round that it is better than whatever that thing was..

And you call me the fanboy hahaha

 

It was a partial land, this doesn't mean any punch thrown and landed on gloves / arms is effective. You saying that is a massive generalization. You always go to the extreme with everything. There are plenty of half landed half blocked shots that fall into this category. What makes it effective is the power behind the punch and the effect that it had on GGG. It moved GGG back and was an eye-catching shot, but I wasn't calling it clean due to GGG getting his glove on it.

There's nothing to indicate it was blocked or missed either. I stated it landed, you then objected and said it didn't land. I looked at it again and am willing to meet you in the middle and say it was hard to tell for sure due to the angle, hence it's inconclusive. I have shown a willingness to hear your objections out and meet you in the middle where it's warranted. You on the other hand have not shown a willingness to be reasonable.

You injected yourself into the discussion by quoting this punch and saying :

"It was a light tap that landed on the forehead. This is the kind of shot you dismiss from GGG (which I'd agree with) yet give Canelo credit for.. Its just getting pathetic now"

First you claimed it was a light tap that landed on the forehead. Then later you said you wouldn't count it as a landed punch. Well which is it? The jab was blocked, that's the point, you trying to deflect and play whataboutism here is besides the point. The point of this exercise of going through time stamps and focusing on specific punches one at a time is to avoid whataboutism deflections. Stop trying to generalize and make claims about other punches as a means to obscure the punch we're focused on.

 

No.

He's basically saying that any punch thrown by Canelo and landing on the arms or gloves is effective.

 

The uppercut landed CLEAN across his face in an upward motion.

It's plain as day that the uppercut is connecting with his face:

https://i.imgur.com/kjOu7ev.jpg

You're claiming that's "stupid"?

See that little gold thing above Canelo's right shoulder, see GGG's hair next to it :

https://i.imgur.com/BP7NF7n.jpeg

The right hook clearly landed and it landed flush, the motion of GGG's head upon receiving the right hook leaves no doubt. The left uppercut we can't see where it landed, I've confirmed we can't see it, so no need to fight over this. We can speculate if it hit the body or the head since we can't tell for sure. What leads me to believe that it was to the chin is seeing GGG's head move up upon impact. But I also see what you said how the ref motioned after that exchange to keep punches up suggesting that it might have been low and therefore had to be a body shot. So I can understand why you think that it may have been a body shot. Even if it was a body shot, it didn't look low so I'm not sure what to make of the ref's motioning there. There's no evidence that either shot was blocked so deeming it a "good combo" isn't unreasonable, but of course you threw a hissy fit over that description.

 

Don't be daft. Every punch is different, the whole point of punch summaries and timestamps is to eliminate these kind of sweeping generalizations. Effectiveness is defined by the effect it has on the opponent. Clearly GGG was affected by that lunging left hook, even though he got his glove on to it. It still had an impact.

 

That jab at 1:10 landed clean, flush and hard. Lets see some examples of GGG jabs landed that round that were better. Many of GGG's jabs in this round were either blocked or landed right as Canelo was landing a jab.

 

He's having difficulty seeing past that red haze of ginger bush

 

Yeah, in the time it took him to get to the truth he could have been wrong four times.

 

i come back after a few days and your still here commenting over n over. do you do this all day lol. i think we all realise as long as canelos glove even touches any part of ggg.... glove, shoulder, forearm, elbow his fans like shadow score it as a clean punch. deluded.