Anthony Joshua: I’m an elite level fighter, Wilder is not

This pretty much sums up the HW division.

 

Wilder had a rematch clause which was executed, it’s not a title defence it’s a rematch clause, so even if Tyson had dumped the title he was still legally bound to fight him, Edward Hearn and the humble one was well aware of the situation, as was we all.

 

Tyson Fury is the best fighter in the sport because he is the 6'9" 270-pound undefeated World Heavyweight Champion.

Mark, I'm not referring to any "pretend" or "make believe" Pound-for-Pound list. Fury is the heavyweight champion of the world. He can beat any man in boxing. If Bud Crawford got in the ring with Fury in an actual fight he'd get his head caved in 'toot sweet.'

Some of you guys have your heads buried so deep into fantasy fights and mythical pound-for-pound, when someone like me says Tyson Fury is the best fighter in the World YOU FAIL TO GRASP REALITY.

Tyson Fury is the World heavyweight champion. He can beat any pro fighter in ALL the other divisions. Bud. Canelo. Whatever dwarf at 108 light flyweight you want to name. ALL of them.

And Wilder is going to fight him next IN A REAL FIGHT - not a make-believe, who has the best jab, discussion. (LOL) An actual fight.

What the hell is wrong with you guys? Seriously.

 

Haha
Let’s have this correct eh!

Wilder was quite rightly getting hammered from all sides about the abysmal level of opponents he fought time and time again. Due to this he was desperate to get a highly regarded name on his record but how on earth could he do that without getting beaten by said highly regarded fighter?

Step forward Tyson Fury, still unbeaten, lineal Champ, defeated Wlad Klitschko and still only 30 odd years old!
He fits the bill because he’s spent 3 years binging on a diet of Colombian marching powder, beer and fatty food and now weighs almost 400lbs. The added bonus of suffering from depression, suicidal thoughts and anxiety just sweeten the pot for Wilder.

The reality was though that the worst ever version of Tyson Fury put on a show that schooled Wilder like never before. The resultant draw was as humiliating for Deontay as it was disappointing for Fury and genuine boxing fans.

So where can Deontay go from here, he’s now locked into a fight against a man he can’t beat, a fight he does not want because he knows all the ills that had Fury at his worst will be all but vanquished by the time they fight again. The rest is history, Fury battered, bullied and rag dolled Wilder like lion playing with its prey!

It’s over for Wilder unless he can get revenge on Fury, no other fight can resurrect his career so now he’s locked into another showdown with Tyson Fury.

As Tyson said at the presser, “he’s (Deontay) in this For all the wrong reasons”

So let’s not use the fights against Fury as some kind of redemptive therapy to fix the sad excuse that is Wilders fight record. He got caught out cherry picking Tyson Fury and it all went wrong, leaving him nowhere else to run other than straight back to Fury!

 

Granted it's not a particularly vintage era... But I'm not sure I really see that argument.

If, for a moment, we ignore that Wilder held a belt and just look at who he was beating, would we consider him elite?
No.
Would we be surprised he didn't hold a belt?
No.
Would we even rank him top ten?
Maybe just about, but it would be somewhat speculative on the basis of power rather than resume - a bit like how some were pushing Dubois as top ten pre-Joyce because he hit hard.

Same question for AJ?
Well he's got easily the best resume in the division, so Yes, Yes and Yes.

Wilders level may be higher than it looks on paper (his best win being the equally hollow-resume Ortiz) but it's also debatable how many he'd win/lose if made to fight the whole of the top ten... It's true that even under pressure he usually finds that bomb, but against more serious opposition would he even get that opportunity?

More than anything, Wilder is a massive disappointment - he could've been entertaining if he took on more serious opponents, okay he may have lost a few more times but then it might've been fair to call him elite... As it is, he's serial ducker who avoided Klitschko, avoided Joshua, avoided Povetkin, avoided Whyte, never attempted to unify.

TBH, I think Joshua was pretty diplomatic about it...

 

You surely can't have forgot that it was Wilder that rejected the 100 mil deal to face Joshua in 2019?

 

Another who thinks it's still 2016. Five years have gone by. CATCH UP.

Tyson Fury is the WORLD CHAMP. Tyson Fury is the best fighter in the game. Wilder is facing him for the third time. The World Heavyweight Title is on the line AGAIN.

Okay, are you catching up?

IF Wilder wins, Wilder will be the WORLD heavyweight champion. And Wilder will have beaten EVERYONE he's fought.

I know that is difficult for many of you to accept, which is why you seem to be stuck in perpetually buffering "It's still 2016 and Fury is still a fat cokehead" mode ...

But unplug whatever dream state you are in ...

AND CATCH UP.

Tyson Fury is the World Heavyweight Champion. He is at the very top. No one is ranked higher. It's not 2016 anymore. It's 2021. To become World Heavyweight Champion, you have to beat Tyson Fury.

And that's what Wilder aims to do.

So you can put what you feel are your clever Colombia rantings away. They are outdated and don't work anymore.

Got it? Good.

If not, CATCH UP.

 

AJ is by far the more complete fighter, but I wouldn't count Wilder out if they met. He has that power after all.

 

Buster Douglas wasn't THAT bad, besides beating Mike Tyson he had wins over Oliver Mccall and past it Trevor Berbick, Ruiz arguably isn't even as good as Chisora. At this point I'd say Takam vs Ruiz is a 50/50 fight

 

Doesn’t change the fact that he chose Fury for the first fight as a Cherry pick!
It wasn’t some noble act of fighter integrity, he literally tried to cheaply get a name on his record by fightinga depressed invalid, but even then he couldn’t get the job done.

The 2nd fight was all Wilder could do after almost universally being ridiculed for being gifted a draw and for getting schooled by a man who hadn’t fought for 3 years, had ballooned to almost 400lbs, had spent 36 months living on drugs and alcohol and was clinically depressed & suicidal.

He got bullied, bulldozed and banjoed in the 2nd fight leaving his ONLY route to redemption being a win over the man who crushed him and a 3rd fight.

Let’s not mix this up, you’re trying to use the 3 Fury fights to show Wilder will fight a quality opponent but a look into the details reveals that Deontay was trying to add a name to his record while facing little to no danger and now he’s caught in a storm of his own making!

 

Correction:
Tyson Fury is ONE OF the world champS.

Wilder is facing him for a third time having been humiliated by a half-fit Fury and ragdolled by a fit one.

If Wilder wins, he will be ONE OF the world heavyweight championS.

And Wilder will have beaten everyone he's fought, which is Fury (who'd still be 2-1 up in any honest appraisal) and a catalogue of bums.

Tyson Fury is ONE OF the world heavyweight championS... Depending on the organisation and whether you value the Ring's judgement or the number of belts held, either Joshua or Fury is at the very top.

To become heavyweight champion you have to beat Fury OR Joshua.

Got it, but as usual you seem to have exceptional tunnel vision and no ****ing clue about the wider picture... You're an incurable fanboi who will use any pathetic excuse possible to justify yourself and contradictions are two a penny.

 

Let's also state the insanely obvious...

Fighting Fury does not show what Wilders level IS, it only shows what it clearly IS NOT, which is anywhere near Fury's level.

Fury does not enhance Wilders resume.

 

100% CORRECT!

 

Dude, you are the one who is mixed up.

If you fight the WORLD CHAMP three times in three years, and the World champ is 30, 31 and 32 when you fight him, and the world champ is three years younger than you and 40 pounds heavier and 6' 9" ... and to become the World Champion you have to beat him ...

THEN YOU ARE FIGHTING a quality opponent.

Your thought process is totally out of whack. Just because Wilder thought he could beat him EVERY time doesn't make Fury a BAD heavyweight.

Tyson Fury is THE top heavyweight in the world. To become the champ, Wilder has to beat the best heavyweight in the world, who is Fury.

One of Fury's first boxing appearances after beating Wlad was to show up at one of Wilder's title defenses and go nose-to-nose with Wilder in the ring afterward.

They have had a rivaly since they both won titles.

Fury is a quality opponent. If Fury isn't a quality opponent, NOBODY in the sport is.

CATCH THE HELL UP!!!

Seriously.