Sheriff Sr says fighters today athletes more than boxers

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  1. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chris Eubank Sr answered ‘no comment’ regarding his thoughts on who his son’s (Chris Jr) next opponent might be and also Fury-Wilder III, however he did delight in talking us through his wisdom gained from life experience.


    What made the 16-year-old Chris Eubank choose boxing?

    Boxing is the only vocation where you can rise from the bottom to the top.

    I arrived in the South Bronx in the early eighties with nothing. I looked over at Manhattan in the distance and said, ‘I want to shop there one day. I want it to be nothing for me to go there and buy whatever I fancy on weekends.’

    The only option was boxing. So I started from scratch and vowed to master it, using words of encouragement from the lyrics of Bob Marley.

    In less than 10 years I would be casually Concording to Manhattan with my then-wife on Saturdays.

    Boxing, boxing, boxing.


    What impression do you believe you made on the sport?

    In a fight you cannot win, stay in there. Get up. Take more.


    Biggest lesson?

    In life terms, Karma. It’s real. If you’re done wrong by somebody, then do good to them, or it will only come back again.

    I should know. I’ve been from the bottom to the top and back to the bottom, back to the top and back to the bottom, over and again more than anyone.

    I am now at my happy medium.


    What caused your plummets do you believe?

    Like I said, the Karmic wheel of the universe. Only give out goodness and practice humility and you’re good to go. Though that is easier said than done. It took me 50 years to realise and master.

    I was locked in a cell on a concrete bed in isolation at 13 in a secure unit, wandering how I was going to be somebody. By 15 I’m making £900 a week selling Versace, Armani and Rayban and wearing Burberry, when the average wage packet was £60.

    At 16 I’m in the burnt-out Bronx; graffiti-ville during the crack cocaine epidemic. My dinner was rotten bananas. My breakfast was raw eggs. I’m the caretaker/cleaner of a boxing gym falling apart. I’m on my own because my mother is working as a live-in nurse.

    How am I going to be somebody? At 18 I’ve clawed my way to boxing at the Garden as an amateur. I can’t win so what do I do? I bite my opponents shoulder. A despicable act.

    At 21 I’m sleeping on my brothers couch in Brighton and all the leading London promoters have rejected me. By 1990 I’ve beaten Nigel Benn for the title in a war of attrition.

    By 25 I’m in torment and despair at having left Michael Watson in a coma and a very unfortunate road accident shortly after. Crying myself to sleep at night.

    By 1993, 1994 Michael Watson is out of a coma and progressing. I’m fighting at Old Trafford and signing eight-figure TV deals.

    By ‘96, I’m out of retirement and every UK broadcaster has rejected me.

    After I fought Carl Thompson in Manchester, I’m a National Hero in my beloved United Kingdom. In the mid-2000s, I’m bankrupt. By 2010, the only possession in the world I have left is a Peterbilt US truck. And so and so forth.

    I’ve come to understand that you embrace wrongness done towards you because goodness will come from it if you respond in kind.

    I spent £2million of my own money - closer to £10million in today’s rate - building 69 flats for the homeless in the mid-90s. Within six months they were graffiti-filled crack dens. I left the project to rot - I shouldn’t of done that.


    Do you believe there are too many belts today?

    Yeah, the only way you can distinguish yourself if politics won’t allow uniting them all together is to keep winning and prove yourself a complete fighter by beating all styles in the overall top 10 world contenders.

    Many can pick up a belt of some kind. But 10 defences of the title proves you are genuine world class. 15 world title wins is another level, and history suggests that 20 world title wins is elite.


    Can the fighters of today compete with fighters of yesteryear?

    I see fitness, I see nutrition. I see physical strength and jumping jacks. I don’t see the technical ability that I saw Roberto Duran, Mike Tyson, Mike McCallum and James Toney possess.

    I don’t see the ring generalship of Roy Jones Jr from these Crawfords or Spences.

    I wasn’t doing push ups or weightlifting or sprint the 100 metres, I was concerned with a good few hours straight each day of drilling boxing techniques when I was coming up. Trying to get the pivots right, the balance, the side stepping, the weaving, the combination punching, the angles, the footwork....

    I would spar at 100% contact. Not tap spar. These were genuine fights. That’s why I could catch a jab without thinking about it, slip a punch without prior thought and actually counter-punch without prior movement and without blocking.

    That’s why I could absorb a punch without telegraphing pain.

    I don’t think fighters today are doing this. I have to be careful what I say.... What I will say is that elders are not respected and parents are not honoured in this generation. To detriment.

    Why do you think Chris Eubank never got a tattoo? That was right up my street. I always remember my mother telling me as a child not to write things on my hands with pens, which I had a habit of.
     
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    NO! Especially in U.K or EU. Absolutely no, if you are not am superstar signed by big promoter/ manager nor also enough big tickets seller in your small hall show, you will get initially a little money and will need big luck.
    I think nothing wrong, if you do have or do not have tatoo. Depends where this is and is this gang etc related or no.

    This is very good, a lot of boxers had made 200-1000 pounds for their debut fight in small show despite they already are selling tickets.
    Cos opponent's purse too should be paid off.

    900X 4 = 3600 pounds per 1 month ? Good number, majority of uni graduates does not get this ammount. At least during first their career years after Uni.
    Imagine, this is 43200 GBP/ p.a ( per 1 year work ).

    Ofc if lad loves boxing and manages to climb up at least enough, it is different conversation.
     
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  4. Bulldog24

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    In 1980, most Doctors weren’t making that. Proper tea leaf
     
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  6. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think the proof is in the pudding in the Fury-Wilder II fight.

    Wilder is wearing weighted vests, jumping onto boxes and rubber bands to punch against and all that jazz.

    Fury is at the Kronk just working on the basics.
     
  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Their are better trainers in the modern game than the idiots that trained Wilder for his bout v Fury, Usyk`s trainers are brilliant Canelo`s are very good.
     
  8. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I’m sure Mark Breland has forgotten more about boxing than most young trainers have learned; put together
     
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  9. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    How? Breland had a huge reach advantage over his opponents and power and speed he didn`t need fundamentals until he faced Starling the best opponent he ever fought.
     
  10. Bulldog24

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    He was arguably the best amateur ever - he had fundamentals if anyone ever did.
     
  11. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Loma was better and has far better fundamentals without an amazingly long jab.
     
  12. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Loma wasn’t a better am than Breland. Mark hardly lost a round in 100 fights.
     
  13. mark ant

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    Lomachenko is one of the most successful amateur boxers of all time, possessing a record of 396 wins and 1 loss, with that loss avenged twice. Competing in the featherweight and lightweight divisions, he won a silver medal at the 2007 World Championships, gold at the 2008 European Championships, consecutive gold at the 2008 and 2012 Olympics, and consecutive gold at the 2009 and 2011 World Championships. He is known for his exceptional hand speed, timing, accuracy, creativity, athleticism, defence and footwork.
     
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  14. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah. Breland was better.
     
  15. Bulldog24

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    I’m guessing Wilder listened more to his S&C coaches and put more into that than the technical work Mark Breland was trying to teach him.

    In fact I’m not guessing because Breland admitted Wilder wouldn’t listen to him.