Nakatani is a live dog this weekend.

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  1. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    Hahahahaha.

    Let's take a look.

    Loma fought Lopez, Campbell, Crolla, Pedraza and Linares at Lightweight.

    If we talk about "domination" the only fight which occurs to me is the Crolla fight.

    He beat Pedraza and Campbell decisively but the scorecards of both fights do not tell the whole story. Both Campbell and Pedraza were competitive throughout the fight and weren't dominated by any means.

    Linares was basically a 50/50 fight until he got stopped by the body shot.

    Loma lost the Lopez fight.

    So we're talking about one dominant performance in one, two, three, four, FIVE fights. Which should make the statement "Loma barely dominated at Lightweight" pretty damn true. If you think he dominated Campbell, Crolla and Pedraza...well...then the statement is probably a stretch but i saw both fights and i don't think he dominated. He won convincingly but was in a decent fight at times and also lost rounds to both guys.

    So next time you should either put some more arguments behind your stupid posts OR just let it go and don't reply instead of embarassing yourself.

    I'm a big, big Loma fan and not a hater by any means but some of his fangirls are pretty damn toxic. Oh dear.

    I hope Loma will win via blowout but i just can't see it happen to be honest.
     
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  2. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    Only numbers pal. Look at the pictures. Campbell much smaller than Nakatani.

    And additionally an entirely different matchup stylistically. Campbell is a boxer-puncher i would assume. Nakatani is more a coming forward slugger. He also has better output. Campbell is decent but he's not a bad matchup for Loma. Loma beat him but Campbell was game and had his moments.

    Personally i think Nakatani is a more difficult matchup at this point (compared to Campbell two years ago).
     
  3. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You mean about possible cards? Nope, Loma had won a lot of rounds.
    Another problem was that looks that punches from Loma did not had enough effect on Linares. Linares managed to drop Loma and if he had managed to drop Loma again and again, he had achieved TKO win vs Loma.
    So from this criteria yeah, fight was very dangerous for Loma. Until he landed this liver punch.

    What from this, Lopez too is overvalued, also his supposed power too is not tested vs enough large and strong for 135 lbs division lads.
    Lopez by himself told that Loma is too small for 135 lbs and with long mileage under belt.
    " I think he is more suitable for 126, 130 lbs, I'm big guy " told Lopez. Everyone might google up this with ease.
    I'm not sure that he had won vs Nakatani despite judges cards and not sure that he might beat Nakatani in rematch.
    Lopez also did not had fought vs Linares, Campbell, these hits harder than Loma for sure. Garcia had dealt vs Campbell only with liver punch, the same stuff like Loma had landed on Linares. Before this didn't looked that Garcia had dominated this fight.

    Yeah, ofc Nakatani does have chances to drop Loma, maybe even win on cards if he will have good night and Loma bad night.
    Will see.
     
  4. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not easy matchup because he is enough big for 135 lbs, might punch ( he dropped Garcia who is huge for 135 lbs and very athletic boxer ), does have normal chin ( lasted all distance vs Linares, Loma, Garcia had dropped him via liver punch ).
    I had assumed that he might land something big on Loma and vuala migh had happened.

    Campbell's minuses are that he isn't finisher despite does have enough power. Like rangy in - out boxer.
     
  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Nah, easy work.
     
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  6. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    As easy as Lopez was, right? :risas3:

    Ah well...i forgot. Loma won that, right?
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yeah, after the 5th round, easy as Lopez was. Well Nakatani ain't ****ing Teofimo Lopez now is he?
     
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  8. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    First of all...Nah...easy work for Teo in that fight. Not exactly as easy as the scorecards suggest but he won that 8-4 at worst.

    Second thing is...no, Nakatani isn't Lopez and i never said he will beat Loma but he's as live as he was against Teo.

    Volume, size and toughness equalize the lack of boxing skills here in my opinion.
     
  9. From.Russia

    From.Russia Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I noticed that logic, Nakatani is as big as Lopez, so Nakatani would win. Is Nakatani as fast as Lopez? No. Can he neutralize Lomas quick lateral movement like Teo did in the early rounds? I doubt it. Nakatani is also not some iron chinned juggernaut, i saw him being legitimately hurt 2 times.
     
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  10. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    It isn't my logic. You should read more carefully.

    Nakatani is big. Yes. Is size enough to beat Loma? Obviously not.

    But Nakatani has two more things in his pocket. Volume and a very rangy brawling style. He throws form very awkward angles and comes forward. I re-watched the Salido fight this week and in my opinion is very similar to Salido with his style. Just a lot bigger.

    And i never said Nakatani BEATS him.

    Please read more carefully or just don't reply if you don't have the reading skills to understand. I have no problem if somebody disagrees but posting some random stuff without any relation is probably not helping at all.

    And posting provocant one-liners isn't as well but okay...
     
  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I posted that to show how often he's been at a reach disadvantage throughout his career. Even down at 126 and 130 he was often giving away significant amounts of weight, reach or both and as he says himself it's very difficult facing guys who hold these kind of physical advantages over you especially for a short-armed fighter like him who isn't a power puncher. Loma isn't one of these weight bully multiple weight champs who moves up and is the bigger man in his second or third weight class or at worst roughly the same size as career fighters at those weights, he's moving up and facing way bigger guys and Nakatani is a giant.

    Loma is in a league of his own in terms of skills and obviously light years better than Nakatani but the sheer size, weight and reach difference between them makes this a very dangerous opponent for him especially after coming back from shoulder surgery and Nakatani is very tough and durable and he can crack.
     
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  12. dangerousity

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    Pac - 67 reach. Funny how he falls into the lower end of reach on Loma’s list of opponents.

    Pac is also naturally smaller than the likes of Lopez and even Campbell. Fker just put on a lot of muscle to go up to WW and won’t be able to get rid of it safely.

    They should have made Pac-Loma at 137.5, would have been an interesting fight.
     
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  13. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    I agree with everything you wrote. I think Lomas title reign at 126, 130 an 135 is one of the most impressive title reigns in history given Lomachenkos size and body composition. He's just not made for 130 or even 135 and still beat all those guys.
     
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  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Loma should outclass Nakatani on paper but I'm not confident of anything anymore with Loma given how injury prone he's become and the fact that he's had to undergo surgery on his shoulder twice now when his surgeon is one of the best in his field is a real concern.
     
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  15. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whatever the fan inside you tells you pal....

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