Watching Lomas fights and its easier to see why he lost to Lopez

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    You call it trolling because its truth you dont want to hear.
     
  2. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    No it isn't. Loma even inactive & in his 30s danced rings round him. It's Lopez' size, physicality & ring presence that made Loma more cautious than usual being that he hydrated to WW & walks around at 160+.. whereas Loma is small for LW. That's what it was, not some freakish RJJ athleticism. Nakatani made him look fairly ordinary. He's explosive & strong but not an athletic freak by any means.
     
  3. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Dancing sounds like what Loma did against Lopez. He forgot the fighting part.
     
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  4. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not one iota of truth, just trolling I'm afraid.
     
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  5. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was very clear to me that Loma was the much better fighter. He was just facing a much bigger guy. Anyone who’s sparred someone who’s very good and a couple of weight classes above knows the feeling of what Loma had to deal with. Let me describe it for you:

    1) you have better skills but it’s difficult when you’re at such a reach disadvantage. You can’t counter because they’re always out of reach. This is not an issue when you’re multiple levels above the opponent OR the opponent doesn’t have power as you can simply time them or move in. However, Lopez is actually skilled enough to utilise this reach advantage at range.

    2) you know you can’t outjab the longer man from outside because he’s just as fast if not faster, has good enough timing to utilise that 1-step reach advantage. That 1 step is the difference between 0.5 seconds, the 0.5 secs step you need to take into the range to reach them. If they’re good enough, they step out just in time OR step in to smother you. In Floyds case, he bends below the waist outwards. Great when facing shorter range fighters but terrible when facing longer ones, like Paul and Mcgregor.

    So your only option is to step in constantly to corner them OR step in when they step in so they don’t have time to step out. Basically, you put yourself in massive danger because you’re constantly stepping into the danger zone, whilst they can go in and out of it as they please. This is why defensive skills like Duran, Tyson, Chavez where they defensively Stepped INTO the range rather than out of it is much harder to do. If you’re not great at it, you’ll get knocked out, far less room for error than running back-defensive ala Lara/Floyd/SRL/Paulie etc.

    Stepping inside the range and staying there can work, if your timing is great, reflexes is great and you can handle the power. As great as Tysons head movement was, he often still got caught going inside.

    Now keep in mind that when you step in, you are moving your head towards the punch, rather than away from it which makes it 10x more dangerous.

    Now amplify that danger with the fact that the guy on the other side also has great timing, and very good power. Amplify that further by the fact that they have size. Size and power are different, one hurts and the other will hurt and move you by the sheer weight of it.

    That’s what threw Loma off. When he got confident enough to just risk it, he put it on Lopez. To me, it was obvious he was a level or 2 above Lopez who is already a very skilled fighter. However, Lopez is naturally 2-3 weight classes above Loma.

    Loma should be at 130, Lopez at 147.
     
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  6. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People are real sensitive about loma around here.

    he is the new mini triple G.

    I like the guy but he is a grown man that doesn’t need defending.

    he simply lost
    & is making his way back taking on a tough fight tonight.

    let’s see how he does against a common opponent that should spark & rekindle some fire debates. :icon_popcorn:
     
  7. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You do not have a clue what stuff you wrote.

    Western posters might laugh and masturbate in the internet by typing : Lil G had get schooled and post their sperm posts how clenbuterol had schooled him etc casual nonsense cos they are dumb as small kids.
    I do not care about US cards for GGG fights and US judges cards like in UK are just business, live with this. Belts are paper and titles are to sell fights to fans, nothing more. HoF might be called as hall of shame and this might had been sold better.

    G had been marinated by germans, okey, he get his paydays in US and now noobs in internet are posting phrases like " lil G " and most likely are dumber than elementary school kids.
    Usyk had laboured his road hard to get a title shot fight on foreign soil vs huge tickets seller from this country.

    Loma? Ol bob and world title shot in 2 nd pro fight.

    Smell the difference?
    And about excuses and chip on shoulder, Canelo for me never had beated also Lara, not alone GGG, he is nobody and damn boring boxer for me. Canelo fans are most stupid fans in internet and his fanbase looks is enough dumb to justify any bare thing that clenbuterol beef meat is doing.

    Buterol clenbuterol lil Clenbuterelo Belt Saul nobody.
     
  8. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i have plenty clue of what I wrote.

    I’m pretty sure you do no not have said clue though good
    Sur…rix

    i did not address you yet you are quite sensitive.
    I did not attack loma.

    Simply stated that people are very sensitive about him on this board.

    Judging by your response you would be a prime example of this.

    I compare loma as a mini version of GGG because people are / were sensitive about him too.

    he has fallen from grace as of late
    So they have been quite quiet…
    until now.
     
  9. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Where he had fallen? Also Loma does not box like GGG or Usyk.
    Interestingly why might remove from Loma or GGG their Glory moment?
    No one, never. Pro boxing belts are nothing, absolutely nothing:nonono if compare with real glory, real pride:p and real respect.
    0 in record, pro org belt ( paper :campeon:per se, do not feel offended here ) etc are nothing special per se.

    In fact I really feel scared that you do not see difference nor in styles nor road to these glorified pro title fights for Loma vs Usyk, GGG and bunch with other boxers. These roads had been different.
     
  10. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    not in their styles
    Comparing their fan’s sensitivity levels.

    that is the only comparison.
    High levels of estrogen & sensitivity detected,
    I must go now, fights have started.
     
  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Im not going to lie Lopez's muscle definition is impressive. Mostly his shoulders. Probably a factor on why he hits hard
     
  12. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Loma is a 126, 130 fighter at most, fighting at 135 and people shame him when a huge fighter like Lopez beats him in a close fight lol

    Casuals
     
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  13. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Muscle has zero to do with punching power
     
  14. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Punching power almost always has to do with technique but Zero ? Are you joking ? A high amount of fast twitch muscle fibers can DEFINITELY allow somebody to posses murderous punching power, and the shoulder snap can be enhanced by strong shoulder muscles.
     
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  15. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    I'm hyped about tonight's fight!!!