Watching Lomas fights and its easier to see why he lost to Lopez

Fact is, I know what I saw, I saw Teofimo beat Loma and wasn't because Loma was too small or he had a bad shoulder. He just beat him. Like I said, Loma's frame and Loma's height can carry 135 easily. Tank got a heavier frame but he is two inches shorter. Then again, this ain't about Tank but Lopez and Loma. All prizefighting is not show business but it is gradually turning that way. As far as excuses, that all you are making. The man lost because he had the wrong game plan and that's the bottom line.

 

As someone else noted, the fights you referenced were all contested at 135lbs, not 130lbs.

Whether Lomachenko can or cannot carry 135lbs is irrelevant. The question is whether Lopez is the naturally bigger man, and the answer is unequivocallly "yes."

Moreover, how could you possibly know what impact Lomachenko's injured shoulder had in the fight??

Did Loma lose the first fight simply because he's the smaller man? Of course not. That said, if you don't believe that Lopez's size and physicality influenced the outcome of that fight, than you are very much mistaken.

 

Lopez was the bigger man and he can use his size well. But he didn't use his size to the fullest extent. He never tried to smother Lomas work and wear him down with his size. If Lopez does this and just forces Loma backwards with his counters and uppercuts in the pocket, especially to the body, i genuinely believe he will take the rematch, be it Decision or KO

 

It is and in general.
Who gets better paid? Who is able to sell more tickets and ppvs, is more well known.

Now yeah, soon there will not be necessity to have 0 or any belt.
With enough well known ppl is possible to earn damn a lot even for their debut fight, be this boxing, mma, wrestling, kickboxing , doesn't matter.
There already are proofs that this theory is reality. You know bunch with beautiful examples.

Well, I agree that I waste time and should not make any excuses for Loma etc.
Bear in mind that also other boxers should not have ANY excuse. ANY excuse.
Lopez will get excuses here from posters when he will get stopped by someone. A lot of excuses here in forum posts.
I don't know, maybe next year, maybe after 7 years.

I of course do know that you will not point on excuses made for fighters who likes you.
There are bunches with boxers with excuses for them posted in forums and then nothing wrong.


Lopez won 1 fight vs Loma, bear in mind that when Lopez will lost 1 fight to someone, his greatness will disappear and there will be A LOT of excuses posted.
Then I will remind you your posts about excuses for Loma and put this in front of you.

 

It didn't and I stand on that. If that's the case Canelo would've beaten Mayweather. According to a lot of folks, Loma is just as skilled as Mayweather or better. I don't share that belief. The fact that he can carry 135 easily is very relevant in this conversation because it was used as a reason to why he lost.

 

You are casual Loma hater and a troll, now you bring in the conversation here Mayweather?
Excellent troll job.

 

Ok

 

You the one trolling cause everytime I post you tagging it. That post wasn't even addressed to you and was only used to make a point. You took a conversation from Lopez to Davis but I didn't label you a hater. What's up with that?

 

So, if I understand you correctly, your position is that because Mayweather overcame a size advantage (Mayweather had a two inch reach advantage; Loma fought with a reach deficit) against Canelo, size never influences the result of a fight?

If that's not your position--and if it is, you are awfully reductionist and a bit obtuse to say the least---then Mayweather's ability to overcome a size advantage is entirely immaterial to this discussion.

Again, the salient point here is not Loma's ability to carry 135lbs, but whether Lopez is the naturally bigger man with associated advantages.

And at the risk of stating the obvious, there are weight divisions precisely because size can absolutely impact a fight.

 

Not an unreasonable proposition, but I would submit that Loma's footwork and general escapability make the strategy you proposed easier said then done.

Even in the first half of the fight, when Lopez had very little to worry about with respect to incoming, he had a hell of a time landing clean shots. If Loma operates with some more educated aggression, Lopez will have to be more defensively responsible.

In other words he'll have to start factoring in Loma's return fire when he considers his own offense. That alone tends to mitigate or take some of the starch out of a "back you up and wear you down approach." In the later rounds, Loma stood his ground more and stopped Lopez's unchecked "downhill" momentum.

And if you think Loma can't hurt Lopez, I think you are mistaken.

 

You real good at saying something is irrelevant or immaterial when it's not. The fact is, it wasn't Mayweather's reach but his skills that won him that fight. Come on man, you ain't got a leg to stand on. You just talking out the side your neck. You restructuring sentences that makes the same lame argument that you first showed up with. The fact is that Loma could've won that fight but his heart failed him. Now he thinks he has it back and he wants revenge but what he must understand is that Teo will be ready and I wouldn't be shocked if Teo knocked him out.

 

And you're not so good at pondering the logical extensions of your poorly considered arguments.

I have lame arguments? This coming from the clown arguing that size cannot possibly influence the outcome of a fight because.....wait for it ladies and gentlemen....Mayweather decisioned Canelo.

Let that sink in for a minute.

When did I ever assert that Mayweather's skills didn't win him the Canelo fight? Rather I objected to your ridiculous assertion that because one fighter overcame a size difference, size could not possibly influence the result of another fight.

Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? Sadly, I'm not sure you do.

You are very good, however, at ignoring inconvenient points.

So I'll ask you again in a way that perhaps you can comprehend: can size influence or impact the outcome of a fight?

If your answer is "no," then perhaps you'd like to kindly explain why we have weight classes in the first place.

If your answer is "yes," then you'll have to concede that it is indeed possible that size played a role in the fist Loma-Lopez fight (my original contention).

 

Teo is overrated and you know this.

You claim that Lopez will KO Loma, okey, if he is such big KO artist, why he was not able to stop Nakatani and Loma?

Did your idol had fought any one hard hitting boxer at 135 lbs? Don't insist that Nakatani and Loma are very hard hiting boxers.

Your idol is overrated and will get stopped by someone, sooner or later. Then you will see how overrated and over hyped Lopez was.
LOL.

 

I said I wouldn't be surprised if Teo knocked him out. By the way I don't have idols but apparently you do because you are into feeling about Loma. I just talk boxing and call it like I see it. Just my opinion supported by facts when need be. Lopez is not even on my favorite fighters list.

 

your facts are your facts.
Lopez is not a KO artist when he does have enough good boxers in the ring.
Facts are that he did not had managed even to drop Loma and won very close fight per se. He also did not had stopped Nakatani.