Ha! Come on now. Look at the nonsense that you have posted over the past few days. You are the guy who never watched the ‘Fab Four’ Your posts are both illogical and embarrassing. You can’t portray yourself as an educated fan who’s been watching boxing for years, when you’ve made comments such as these: “Floyd Mayweather had a bigger knockout percentage than Ray Leonard” “Floyd would have beaten a prime version of Thomas Hearns with timing and accuracy” Let’s get it right: Floyd ducked Manny for years and wouldn’t even let a fellow JMW champ weigh-in at the limit. So if you think that a guy who acted like that had the same mental strength and confidence as guys like Hearns and Duran, you are living in a fantasy.
Come and refute what I’ve said. I’ll wait. Floyd: Deliberately cheated JMM on the scales. Ducked Manny for years and accused him of being on PEDS, before then taking PEDS himself. Wouldn’t let Canelo weigh-in at 154. Wouldn’t let Maidana wear his gloves. Went to the WWE when Marg and Cotto etc were in their prime. Duran: Fought Leonard x 3, Benitez, Hearns, Barkley and Hagler. What exactly do you have issue with? Duran fought Iran Barkley at MW in his late 30’s. Floyd retired by fighting an MMA fighter. Floyd never had the heart/will that guys like Duran had.
May be at middleweight he 'smashes' him, but I see this as a competitive fight on up till about 152 pounds, may be even at 154. In a welterweight fights I see the odds shift to Mayweather. I think Hearns spindly azz legs start to fail him again over the course of a long fight. You know it's funny, no one ever regarded SRL as a brawler until that fight....that's one of the things you people keep saying is that you can't box Hearns (a pretty ignorant statement) and the only way to beat him is to slug it out with him (another dumb blanket statement).... Well guess what, no one expected ray to fight that way either but he did, and Hearns even began obliging him, and did so towards the middle rounds showing a lapse in focus due to being mentally broken down. Leonard did not have reach or power to match Hearns either. Leonard is roughly Floyd's size, there's about an inch between them, but all those things you are saying are impossible to do against Hearns, someome already went out there and did it, someone who was also considered a boxer not puncher... I think Floyd is the far more solid fighter at 147. He will take his time like always, even 'runs' if he needs to for a couple of rounds, but by round 4 or 5 he has Hearns jab timed and no longer as effective, and by the next couple rounds he's tagging Hearns with a right every time he comes in with his jab and Hearns starts to hesitate and stops throwing punches as the mental pressure takes it toll. Hearns was a 15 round guy, so I fully expect him to answer the final bell, but I think his bony legs will only take him so far, he will be gassed and withered and by the final round he will be eating unanswered rights that cause him to stagger about. Floyd 'plays it safe' and never tried for the kill, but walks away with the UD
Perhaps because Hearns threw in combination and with power. Something that Mayweather didn't do. Name someone who outboxed Hearns at 147lbs.
Don't quote me. I never said Floyd had the higher KO percentage, but I DID say he had more knockouts than Leonard. Which he does. You have just exposed yourself. I mean you were already exposed as a young casual, but now you have exposed yourself as someone who would post up intentionally false statements on the forum.
I got Hearns here, I'll give Floyd the doubt and go the distance. Mayweather ain't stopping Tommy. Height, reach and most importantly work rate from Tommy will be decisive.
People corrected you because your logic was flawed. Mayweather having more knockouts does not imply his power is comparable to Leonard's. Learn the meaning of context you utter clown.
******STRAWMAN ALERT*****[/QUOTE] You were the one who created a strawman by posting that others had posted that Hearns could not be outboxed. No one has posted that, just that nobody outboxed him at 147lbs.
You are quite simply deluded. How is it ignorant to say that nobody outboxed Hearns, when NOBODY DID outbox him? It’s not ignorant, it’s a FACT. Ray couldn’t do it. Benitez couldn’t do it. Duran couldn’t do it. Hill couldn’t do it. Marvin didn’t even attempt it. It never happened. You claim that you’re an educated fan who’s been watching boxing for years, yet you don’t realise that Ray Leonard had MUCH MORE POWER than what Floyd did at WW and JMW. It doesn’t matter if Ray wasn’t that much bigger than Floyd in terms of height and reach. Floyd was a former SFW, LW and LWW. He wasn’t as big, strong or as powerful as what Leonard was. Leonard knocked out Donny Lalonde at SMW-LHW, when he was in his 30’s and faded. Floyd was a safety first fighter with hand issues for the majority of his fights at WW-JMW. Floyd didn’t possess the power to knock out Hearns like Leonard did. Floyd would never ever have had a shootout with Hearns at any weight. How on earth can we take you serious when you type out utter nonsense?? Hearns would never have gassed against Floyd, as Floyd would never have fought him aggressively at a fast pace. Stick to the PS4.
Just highlighting this point so it stands out. Mayweather was low-output and Hearns would dictate the pace if needed because Mayweather wouldn't get anything going against him. Neither would he be especially difficult for Hearns to land on.
Um, Mayweather having more KOs is not the end all be all, but it does make you look pretty stupid when you're up online posting on forums how he doesn't have any power
No one said he didn't have any power. Just that he didn't have the power to trouble Hearns at 147lbs. Learn to read ffs.
It doesn’t matter if he had more knockouts. Not when you apply the relevant context. Floyd fought more fights. Most of his knockouts were in the early part of his career at the lower weights. Floyd DID NOT possess the power than Leonard did, irrespective of his numbers. Floyd had no power at WW and JMW. He didn’t have the power to take out a prime version of Hearns. The only casual here is YOU: I asked you THREE times for a breakdown. This is what you gave me: “Floyd would have beaten Hearns with timing and accuracy” You are painfully out of your depth. You are labelling people as being ignorant for saying that Hearns was never outboxed, despite the fact that he never was. You are claiming that Floyd could have replicated what Leonard did to Hearns, as they are of a similar size. Ha!