Floyd Mayweather vs Thomas Hearns - 147

He wasn’t making huge money in 2005.

Floyd went back and changed his demands at the last second, because he wanted out of the fight.

He left the Oscar rematch on the table.

If Manny hadn’t have been iced by Marquez where he’d visibly slowed down, he’d have left that fight on the shelf, losing out on millions of dollars.

 

Either Hearns wins behind his jab or Mayweather takes it away midfight and nicks a decision.

"Hearns knocks Mayweather cold LOL" is peak delusion.

 

People hate Monzon and not as many people know about LaMotta's personal life. Either way, covering things up as racism when it isn't there is peak insecurity and it's hilarious. Remember not to be so obvious when you come back.

 

Delusion is Mayweather taking a decision. That is more unlikely than a Hearns KO. A Hearns points win is the safe bet.

 

If a post-prime version of Shane Mosley and Maidiana can have Mayweather on shaky legs, then a prime Thomas Hearns sure can.

Mayweather wasn't all that really. Great? Yes. One of the very greatest? No.

 

You're out of your mind if you don't know that Mayweather was among the greatest.

And what was Hearns up to at age 37?

P.S. Hearns didn't knock out Leonard or Benitez in three tries. He takes a decision at best.

 

Among the top 50 ever? Yeah probably.

Top 30? No.

Your final point is irrelevant. Hearns didn't box at welterweight in his late 30s.

 

Floyd wouldn’t have taken it away and he just wouldn’t have been offensive enough to have won a decision.

Hearns knocking out Floyd would have been unlikely in my opinion, as I think it would have been a very slow paced and cautious chess match.

I wouldn’t say it was peak delusion though.

I don’t think that many people in 1984 thought that Hearns would have knocked Duran out.

Duran was the same size as Floyd with a great defence.

Duran was an ATG who’d just given Hagler a great fight.

It’s not peak delusion if Hearns had’ve pressed him before then finding space and the perfect opportunity.

Again, I’d have said it was unlikely, but if he could do it to Duran, he could do it to anyone under certain circumstances.

Apart from Joppy who stopped him on his feet when he was in his late 40’s, Hearns is the only guy who knocked him out in a career that spanned over 100 fights.

Floyd was great, but he wasn’t superhuman.

Floyd never saw a fighter like Hearns in his entire career, and Hearns would have been a horrible stylistic match up for him. Probably the worst match up you could have given him.

 

He fought Leonard the second time at a higher weight.

Against Benitez he fought with an injured right hand and still dominated.

Leonard had the power and combination punching to keep Hearns at bay during the first outing even if he was outboxed for much of the fight.

Mayweather is an overrated scumbag.

 

I don’t see how your last point is relevant.

It’s always down to styles.

In their first fight, Leonard changed his tactics and had a toe to toe shootout.

Floyd wouldn’t have had that option.

Their rematch in 89 was up at SMW when they were both faded, but Hearns had him down twice.

Hearns iced Duran.

Hagler iced Hearns.

Yet Duran came extremely close to beating Hagler.

He also obviously beat Leonard before Leonard beat Hearns.

Hearns not knocking Benitez and Leonard out, wouldn’t have meant that it would have been impossible to have knocked Floyd out.

Again, Duran was only knocked out once in over 100 fights. The only other time was when he was stopped on his feet at nearly 50.

Hears could have pressed Floyd and caught him with something big before stepping in and taking him out. There’s no way that it’s peak delusion to suggest it.

It’s easy to say that it never happened to Floyd, when he just never fought a guy like Hearns, with that sort of range, timing, speed and power.

 

Leonard, a natural welterweight, was a different kind of animal offensively, throwing combinations. Had more power too. Floyd is a safety first fighter who often throws single punches.

 

Exactly.

How could he have beaten Hearns on a decision?

How could he have beaten him at all?

 

Bigger puncher than Leonard and best defence ever.

Haven't you been paying attention?

 

Excellent.

Thread should have ended here honestly.

21 pages for what is clearly a mismatch? Floyd cannot outbox him in a million years and wouldn't knock him out even with brass knuckles.

He would either need a complete robbery or a freak cut to emerge victorious.

And as great as his chin and defense are, it'd be a miracle if he made it all 12 rounds, let alone 15. It's just a horrible, horrible matchup. Low output light hitting cagey guy giving up a significant amount in height and reach, no chance. Hearns is no slouch in speed or technique either.

 

As I've said before, Heans is the best ever in fantasy fights as long as he doesn't totally screw up like he did more times than is few times during his actual career.